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70. More Concerned With Jury Composition

Mon Jun 20, 2022, 06:38 PM

Jun 2022

Clyburn seems concerned about carryovers from the previous administration holding the prosecution up. Really, that's the concern? If I were the prosecutor I'd be more concerned about getting a conviction, otherwise why bother? All is takes is one juror holding out to keep a conviction from happening. If you have a truly representative jury, 47% of the jurors will be Trump supporters (who are idealistically rabid). And you might be thinking, "Well, DC is really anti-Trump (he only got 5.4% of the vote in 2020)" - but that's the same rationale any competent defense lawyer would use for a change of venue. Do you really need, or want, a show trial ending in a hung jury?

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And people wonder why we're skeptical about DOJ prosecuting trump et al. Ask James Clyburn: [View all] SoonerPride Jun 2022 OP

Truth onecaliberal Jun 2022 #1

There it is. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #2

I'm not sure what that means. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #3

The DOJ's mission statement is not to "protect democracy." SoonerPride Jun 2022 #5

Not really an answer to my question. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #6

Because it is up to their discretion whether to prosecute or not. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #8

Merrick Garland makes such decisions, not Trump holdovers. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #9

Merrick Garland relies on the prosecutors working the individual cases. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #12

If you can't answer the question I asked, please don't respond. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #15

You've had the question answered for you multiple times now. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #22

I'm not naive at all. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #24

I recognize your frustration. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #39

Why wouldn't the tweet be accurate? It was a quote taken from his appearance on CNN. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #16

Ummmmm, not really. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #17

Clyburn's reasoning is that the DOJ has too many right wingers in it SoonerPride Jun 2022 #18

And does that hold up against the reports that most of the Trump era attorneys at DOJ are gone Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #19

Yes. It sure does. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #20

Which isn't an answer to a question. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #40

None of the Trump era holdovers have authority over the J6 investigations/prosecutions Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #50

Police don't have to protect people. DOJ doesn't have to defend democracy. JanMichael Jun 2022 #28

Look at history inthewind21 Jun 2022 #4

Excellent reality check. un-redacted Mueller report??? Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #35

+2 nt Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #67

+1 leftstreet Jun 2022 #66

This isn't a case of hunkering down and trying to survive hard times. Solly Mack Jun 2022 #7

Yes indeed Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #33

I'm anxious like all the rest. EndlessWire Jun 2022 #10

Yup. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #36

Grand Juries return indictments on a simple-majority-rule basis. Justice matters. Jun 2022 #51

Barr didn't do shit when he was AG. milestogo Jun 2022 #11

So for a prosecution this big and this important Garland can't figure out if someone under him jalan48 Jun 2022 #13

ahhh... Our very own 'deep state' conspiracy... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #14

Oh yah we are at each other because pwb Jun 2022 #27

They should have cleaned house and removed the Trump trash after inauguration dalton99a Jun 2022 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #41

Clyburns statement means nothing. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #25

Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #26

Clyburn presented no evidence in that statement. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #31

Even if Rep. Cluburn presented evidence you would dismiss it anyway. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #37

Brilliant post. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #42

It's interesting that Clyburn's lack of evidence is seen as fatal to his claims Orrex Jun 2022 #74

I think it means what it says. Doesn't appear too complicated. However... Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #32

Garland inherited a snake pit. Looking at you Bill 'nothing to see here/ Barr. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #34

Does anyone here have solid information about how many Trump hold-over attorneys Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #38

They don't have to have been appointed by trump/Barr to be a right winger SoonerPride Jun 2022 #44

So literally no answer to the question asked. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #53

No. Snarky comments and false insinuations of ulterior motives Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #57

"The approach?" Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #60

I thought this was a discussion forum Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #62

Apparently not. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #63

No, but according to the OP they are going to block the investigation into Trump. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #46

I highly commend you and others for engaging the doom and gloom crowd here, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #64

This would all go away if we had any indication that DOJ is doing anything about Trump Orrex Jun 2022 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #47

I know, Trump and his inner circle should have been indicted the moment Garland took office. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #49

Prosecutors who follow the rule of law build cases before they go indicting people. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #52

I know, I was being sarcastic. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #54

Sorry that I misinterpreted your post. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #56

No problem. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #58

Interpreting someone else's comments without the full information is always fraught with the Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #71

Thank you for the substantive reply. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #72

Ha!!! MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #65

Yeah, except that it's entirely nonsensical. Orrex Jun 2022 #69

Perhaps you can show me any place on the entire internet where I've made that assertion? Orrex Jun 2022 #68

More Concerned With Jury Composition Colbert Jun 2022 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #75

The Big Difference Colbert Jun 2022 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #78

It's not an either or. Prosecuting bad actors shows where the system weaknesses are meadowlander Jun 2022 #73

IMO DOJ has never been interested in imprisoning rich white politically-connected people pecosbob Jun 2022 #76