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Ocelot II

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18. They can set policy for what goes on in their premises,

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:57 PM

Jul 2022

but unless that policy also violates a particular law, the only thing they can do if someone violates the policy is throw them out. If the policy violator refuses to leave, they can then be charged with trespassing but that's it.

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What should happen to the shooter? [View all] sarisataka Jul 2022 OP

At least banned from the mall Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #1

He could have killed a bystander ... Novara Jul 2022 #4

Exactly Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #5

He could have, but he didn't, so he can't be prosecuted Ocelot II Jul 2022 #9

"If nobody had a gun nobody would be dead." Novara Jul 2022 #16

Legally, nothing DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #2

This. -NT- ruet Jul 2022 #32

He violated the property owner's policy, but did he violate a law or ordinance? Ocelot II Jul 2022 #3

He did not violate a law sarisataka Jul 2022 #7

Most states allow someone charged with homicide Ocelot II Jul 2022 #10

Yes, at this point sarisataka Jul 2022 #14

If a prosecutor thinks a potential defendant has a very strong defense Ocelot II Jul 2022 #15

I agree the likelihood of charges sarisataka Jul 2022 #20

Isn't it the law that establishments have the right to set policy? Kaleva Jul 2022 #13

It depends on the specific state sarisataka Jul 2022 #17

Thanks. Im not familiar with Indiana law. Kaleva Jul 2022 #25

They can set policy for what goes on in their premises, Ocelot II Jul 2022 #18

They can, but their policies are pretty meaningless DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #19

That's a dumb thing to do, though. Jirel Jul 2022 #34

Wish I could rec this post n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #42

Nobody ever follows up on these good guys guns who kill people Walleye Jul 2022 #6

Fox News does. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #12

If Simon Properties pinkstarburst Jul 2022 #8

Criminally nothing. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #11

What do you do to the husband who robs bank to pay for wife's life saving surgery aeromanKC Jul 2022 #21

I will say this, Chainfire Jul 2022 #23

Agree aeromanKC Jul 2022 #28

Actions have consequences sarisataka Jul 2022 #24

Apparently there is no Indiana law that says you must obey the sign Kaleva Jul 2022 #26

I simply can not bring myself to suggest any sanctions against a person Chainfire Jul 2022 #22

I have seen quite a few posts upset sarisataka Jul 2022 #27

And, I understand that. Chainfire Jul 2022 #29

I believe it would only be misdemeanor trespass if he was asked to leave and refused Amishman Jul 2022 #33

Why did you include felony and misdemeanor? brooklynite Jul 2022 #30

For the sake of being thorough sarisataka Jul 2022 #31

The NY prosecutor is an idiot SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #36

Charges dropped brooklynite Jul 2022 #51

Just read that earlier today SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #52

2 people actually picked that choice Polybius Jul 2022 #46

And as of the time I'm posting this sarisataka Jul 2022 #35

Nothing. DFW Jul 2022 #37

Completely impossible Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #38

It appears the hero broke the mall rules, No Firearms or Illegal Weapons Emile Jul 2022 #39

That appears to be correct sarisataka Jul 2022 #40

There are no heroes in this situation. The Grand Illuminist Jul 2022 #41

Yup Polybius Jul 2022 #47

I long for the day where we don't need heroes with guns. Emile Jul 2022 #53

My thanks to all who answered this poll sarisataka Jul 2022 #43

Banned from the mall mvd Jul 2022 #44

Let's review 2 incidents where "hero" shooters violated laws/policies. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #45

Reminds me of an episode of Masters of the Universe around 1983 Polybius Jul 2022 #48

This, at OSHA, is what is referred to as a "de minimis violation." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #49

Analogy: some kids decide to ditch high shool. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #50