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pnwmom

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26. They need to shout their story to the rooftops. The UK isn't Disneyland, despite the pretty castle.

Thu Dec 15, 2022, 09:07 PM

Dec 2022

The UK's history of racism is even longer and more widespread than our own. How did slaves end up in America? Through the British slave trade.

The racism in the UK is widespread and deep rooted, and this is one of the topics of the series.

This is David Olusoga, discussing the Black British history that is not taught in UK schools. It's not taught here, either, though maybe it should be. I'm not surprised Meghan was shocked by the racism there. How would she have known about it? Many people here believe the romanticized view of the UK that the Royalty and its communications team (aka, P.R. people) want to promote.

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Harry and Meghan. Reason to pay attention [View all] cally Dec 2022 OP

I believe them too for many of the stated reasons and more. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #1

Harry is experiencing something akin to what his mother suffered, no_hypocrisy Dec 2022 #2

and his own brother is dis owning him. how evil and sick. i hate charles and camilla Trueblue1968 Dec 2022 #3

They need to be quiet now. Victims of their own ignorance. She is the first mixed race, American Pisces Dec 2022 #4

Wow cally Dec 2022 #6

Well said. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #11

Agree. Victims of racism should not be quiet. mainer Dec 2022 #13

Sorry I came off so poorly, my intention was not Pisces Dec 2022 #20

Just because it is out there, does not mean it should be accepted. Bev54 Dec 2022 #66

Frankly I was shocked when I saw some of the things they have done to Megan. I read the Maraya1969 Dec 2022 #68

I'm sure they knew "it was out there." ShazzieB Dec 2022 #83

Very well said, thank you n/t Withywindle Dec 2022 #91

Harry holds tight to the idealism that his mother bequeathed him lostnfound Dec 2022 #95

No, but their naive shock that it was possible to experience Pisces Dec 2022 #16

Barack Obama did confront racism during his 2008 campaign. wnylib Dec 2022 #27

I don't find the 2 people comparable. I should never have Pisces Dec 2022 #29

I've learned not to comment on anything on DU. Gruenemann Dec 2022 #43

It's a bit perilous alright. Disaffected Dec 2022 #56

I hear you. kskiska Dec 2022 #82

For someone who does not care about them, you certainly seem to have a niyad Dec 2022 #87

They ARE getting tiresome. AND annoying. calimary Dec 2022 #62

THANK YOU Skittles Dec 2022 #90

Let us know when you experience something similar and at the same level Bev54 Dec 2022 #67

Even now, I still fill bad about Hilary. Dan Dec 2022 #52

Thank you nt relayerbob Dec 2022 #60

They do not NEED to be anything but what THEY want to be. Sit down and niyad Dec 2022 #14

Amen. MontanaMama Dec 2022 #64

Thank you MustLoveBeagles Dec 2022 #71

Amen. Stinky The Clown Dec 2022 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Dec 2022 #18

How domyou expect things to get better NewEnglandAutumn Dec 2022 #21

They need to shout their story to the rooftops. The UK isn't Disneyland, despite the pretty castle. pnwmom Dec 2022 #26

Just the fact that she was American she should have been prepared Pisces Dec 2022 #40

I wonder, how does one "prepare for hate"? blue neen Dec 2022 #50

Interesting. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #84

She's rich so she should just suck it up and STFU? mcar Dec 2022 #28

Poor wording on my part. Again don't care about these people Pisces Dec 2022 #32

Why should they accept public backlash? mcar Dec 2022 #34

They don't have to accept anything but the fact that people Pisces Dec 2022 #37

Howard Stern? Seriously. I give a fuck about Harry and Meghan but zero about an asshole like Stern. Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #48

I get it and have felt it myself. I would never have been naive to the fact that it exists and that Pisces Dec 2022 #54

So they should have expected it and you don't care about them. Yeah, I get it. Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #57

There is a big difference... Tree-Hugger Dec 2022 #74

Who TF cares what Howard Stern thinks? mcar Dec 2022 #51

Oh...well.. Tree-Hugger Dec 2022 #72

These H & M threads Tree-Hugger Dec 2022 #75

It is and it's shocking mcar Dec 2022 #76

+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #77

I disagree BonnieJW Dec 2022 #35

He and his wife are both such snobs. Cannot abide either one of them. n/t SheilaAnn Dec 2022 #39

Stupid is forever; read your own tag line Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #49

WTH does that mean? SheilaAnn Dec 2022 #55

"Can't abide either of them" suggests that you have zero ability to relate. "Snobs" is a slur. n/t Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #58

So be it. Chill. n/t SheilaAnn Dec 2022 #59

I hardly need advice from you. Thanks Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #61

Awwwww, have a nice evening. SheilaAnn Dec 2022 #63

Seriously? Harry couldn't help who his parents were. He happened to fall in love with someone catbyte Dec 2022 #46

I'm seeing a lot of that. betsuni Dec 2022 #65

The Brit aristocracy is appallingly racist and misogynistic (probably anti-semitic too) FakeNoose Dec 2022 #5

I totally agree. phylny Dec 2022 #7

Christopher Bouzy of Bot Sentinel has documented the coordinated attacks Arazi Dec 2022 #92

If you watched the series "The Crown",this all makes sense. EOM tiredtoo Dec 2022 #8

If "The Crown" is to be believed and I believe it is, these are hateful people. The royalty are con- SheilaAnn Dec 2022 #38

Just like with the Sopranos, though, many people will admire them. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2022 #69

No, "The Crown" is not to be believed. It's fiction designed to keep you watching,not a documentary. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 #94

I agree with you. Just know the haters will not. Samrob Dec 2022 #9

It was a fascinating series. About the media... Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #10

eh NJCher Dec 2022 #12

Im not following their documentaries.. I will say this. Deuxcents Dec 2022 #15

Why the low ratings? Hamlette Dec 2022 #17

Those are easily manipulated. progressoid Dec 2022 #25

that's f-ed up Hamlette Dec 2022 #30

The Royalty-lovers instantly rated it down, as soon as the first episode dropped. pnwmom Dec 2022 #33

It's like online polls mcar Dec 2022 #36

Would be cool to see all this bring down the monarchy. Won't happen but the fall out will be Srkdqltr Dec 2022 #19

I absolutely agree. llmart Dec 2022 #22

This! onetexan Dec 2022 #89

Well the media wasn't very kind to Diana or Fergie either. milestogo Dec 2022 #23

Listening to David Osuloga, the Black historian who appeared on the series, pnwmom Dec 2022 #31

the british abolished the slave trade 33 years before dawn5651 Dec 2022 #44

I was talking about the media problem. milestogo Dec 2022 #47

As a student of verbal warfare, i found The Crown to be Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #24

Lots of judges out there. Even ones that say they don't care about them..... LakeArenal Dec 2022 #41

haz and the wife lied when they said canada refused to pay dawn5651 Dec 2022 #42

"haz and the wife"??? What is that supposed to mean? niyad Dec 2022 #78

Straight outa The Telegraph, and can and should be ignored. Iggo Dec 2022 #81

Ah, I see. Thanks for this. 😉 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #85

Thank you. It had struck me as very odd. niyad Dec 2022 #86

Well said, cally. We just watched the first of the three newest episodes. NewHendoLib Dec 2022 #45

well said and agree. Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #53

This is a pretty base level take. BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #70

Scandal of Windrush generation already showed how racist the UK is... HipChick Dec 2022 #73

Who is haz? niyad Dec 2022 #88

I heard the same thing about point number one Ilsa Dec 2022 #80

K&R betsuni Dec 2022 #93

It's depressing to witness how well PR works Sympthsical Dec 2022 #96

Good piece on this in today's WaPo musette_sf Dec 2022 #97

Stupid Racists.. TY Cary nt Cha Dec 2022 #98