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Hugh_Lebowski

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102. I'd probably accept that critique, based on what we know or could logically presume

Wed Mar 1, 2023, 07:45 PM

Mar 2023

Not saying he's not worthy of some degree of denigration ... but I'm not sure it's worthy of branding him with paedophile status.

If for no other reason, its a simple matter of definition. Sleeping with young women well past the age of physical maturity simply does not meet ... the actual definition of that word.

True pedo's tend to leave a swath of destruction behind them, and once one person comes forward, there's a deluge. That didn't happen in this case, despite the obviously deep pockets of English royalty. It's one 17 year old, which is above legal age in the UK.

I think it's fair to say he did something wrong, and he's being punished in a LOT of ways, and I have no problem with that. But calling him pedo I think is over the top.

MHO.

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This has to be a joke??? Britain's Prince Harry loses home on royal estate: reports [View all] Peacetrain Mar 2023 OP

No way to guess if it's true or not. Demobrat Mar 2023 #1

Since they do not allow them security even if they pay for their own. I just can't see a grandparent Peacetrain Mar 2023 #5

Charles wants a fancy Coronation and Performers are turning him down. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2023 #2

no kidding.. whew this is a mess if true.. so I am holding out not true Peacetrain Mar 2023 #7

I commented a year or more ago sdfernando Mar 2023 #20

Right, it was rumored that William had an affair. brush Mar 2023 #34

.... CatWoman Mar 2023 #114

Why should they keep it? pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #3

I agree with you. Raven123 Mar 2023 #6

So they cannot have security.. the one place that was secure for them was Frogmore Peacetrain Mar 2023 #9

I am no Andrew fan pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #30

It's a 5- bedroom house they've been paying rent on mainer Mar 2023 #37

The point is the Queen made a gift. How can Charles reneg on that? pnwmom Mar 2023 #88

Because highborn Englishmen enjoy a spot of cruelty now 'n then. Mopar151 Mar 2023 #118

True, if legally deeded to someone treestar Mar 2023 #154

From what I understand now, there probably wasn't a legal deed. But it was a very cheesy thing pnwmom Mar 2023 #156

Yes looks very bad treestar Mar 2023 #160

Well, he's the same guy who was messing around with Camilla from the first months of his marriage pnwmom Mar 2023 #161

Sleeping with one 17 year old does not make one a 'pedophile' Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #55

He knew Epstein was a pimp of a girl whose age he didn't check. Is that better? nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #89

I'd probably accept that critique, based on what we know or could logically presume Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #102

I wasn't the person who called him a pedophile. But he is a disgusting creep. nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #103

I'm fine with disgusting creep, but pedophile seems harsh based on what we know Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #104

+1 pandr32 Mar 2023 #13

Because they own it obamanut2012 Mar 2023 #14

They don't own it pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #54

Then why was it described as a "gift" from the Queen? pnwmom Mar 2023 #90

Because people are dishonest...just like "they paid back the refurbishment" Baltimike Mar 2023 #123

Where is your evidence that they didn't pay it back? nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #124

Where is your evidence they did? Baltimike Mar 2023 #135

It was reported in 2020 by the BBC and the NYT, among others, and was not contradicted by The Firm, pnwmom Mar 2023 #138

That's according to HARRY'S spokesperson, and we have SEEN how the duo LIES Baltimike Mar 2023 #143

You missed the verb tense: "had pledged." pnwmom Mar 2023 #144

Harry would lie about that in the same vein that they said the place was a gift Baltimike Mar 2023 #158

The Palace announced the cottage was a gift from the Queen. That wasn't a lie on Harry's part. pnwmom Mar 2023 #159

Exactly. The palace announced a GIFT that WASN'T one. Baltimike Mar 2023 #162

So you seriously believe that pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #127

Well if Harry didn't own it, and the Crown Estate still did, pnwmom Mar 2023 #145

surely done with the understanding treestar Mar 2023 #155

Wasn't it a wedding gift from the Queen herself? brush Mar 2023 #157

They don't own it. It is on a year to year lease. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #81

Correct pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #128

I see your point. If I were British, though, I'd be pissed it was going to the sex offender. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #18

I do not believe H/M pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #32

It was granted to them by the Queen mainer Mar 2023 #21

Agreed. crickets Mar 2023 #50

I don't find either of those actions petty pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #53

Did you pay your mom 3 million dollars in reno, plus rent? mainer Mar 2023 #58

They haven't paid the refurbishment back...they were paying installments Baltimike Mar 2023 #62

You're repeating disinformation. They paid it back mainer Mar 2023 #72

True, but not many parents all over the world crickets Mar 2023 #71

She will also be known as Queen Camilla now, not Queen Consort. She's a nasty piece of work. gldstwmn Mar 2023 #96

But your mother is your mother. What Camilla did was a very thoughtless thing to do pnwmom Mar 2023 #120

Shouldn't Harry and Meghan be compensated for their.... brush Mar 2023 #36

Why? pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #51

So the racism Meghan was subjected to, and the reason for their... brush Mar 2023 #57

Prince Harry has stated unequivically that the RF is not racist. nt Baltimike Mar 2023 #65

Some of the Brit press certainly has been. You have to be aware of that. brush Mar 2023 #73

Princess Michael of Kent, who wore the racist broach, Baltimike Mar 2023 #77

Pls explain what you're talking about. Everyone hasn't read... brush Mar 2023 #85

Here's an article that came out at the time: crickets Mar 2023 #105

I knew about the brooch and the intent of the minor royal. brush Mar 2023 #106

Yikes! I'm so sorry. crickets Mar 2023 #109

Please explain why post #105 didn't suffice Baltimike Mar 2023 #121

See 106. brush Mar 2023 #125

I did...and even responded to it. Baltimike Mar 2023 #136

No, he hasn't. He said that certain named individuals were not racist. pnwmom Mar 2023 #97

Yes, he has. Period. Baltimike Mar 2023 #122

I don't dislike Harry and Meghan Dorian Gray Mar 2023 #151

+1 Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #80

If it was a gift to them, they owned it. If they invested over $2million into rehabbing it pnwmom Mar 2023 #87

yes Dorian Gray Mar 2023 #150

What of the several mansions the monarch has? treestar Mar 2023 #153

I don't doubt it. MontanaMama Mar 2023 #4

MontanaMama, I truly believe this has to be a tabloid hoax Peacetrain Mar 2023 #10

I hope that its a hoax but MontanaMama Mar 2023 #39

I guess it isn't.. Meghan is an American, her kids are Americans.. its time to put their Peacetrain Mar 2023 #41

The Palace has already made it clear that the safety of Prince Harry and his family is of no concern pnwmom Mar 2023 #139

Just reported in the Washington Post mainer Mar 2023 #59

I know mainer... I know.. I just wanted to believe in better angels.. Peacetrain Mar 2023 #61

How does this put them at risk? Dorian Gray Mar 2023 #152

Heehee. Charles and Camilla are getting it back in spades... brush Mar 2023 #40

Plus, Charles gave millions in trust to Camilla's kids mainer Mar 2023 #60

Not good. I hadn't heard about that. brush Mar 2023 #64

trust funds for camilla's kids mainer Mar 2023 #75

Who cares? This is gossip column stuff. tritsofme Mar 2023 #8

Amen to that. comradebillyboy Mar 2023 #11

I do, just don't read threads about it obamanut2012 Mar 2023 #15

Seems like Lounge material to me. tritsofme Mar 2023 #17

But at this point, isn't that the point of the royal family? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #19

No, it's not just silly gossip mainer Mar 2023 #22

These people are little more than British versions of the Kardashians tritsofme Mar 2023 #23

Have you read SPARE? mainer Mar 2023 #24

I couldn't possibly waste my time on such drivel. tritsofme Mar 2023 #26

Well, there you go mainer Mar 2023 #29

No, like the Kardashians and other gossip column material tritsofme Mar 2023 #33

What reality show are they on? Go ahead. I'll wait. gldstwmn Mar 2023 #99

These are actual people. Sure they were born rich, (except for Megan) but that does not Maraya1969 Mar 2023 #35

And yet here you are right in the middle of it with the rest of us. gldstwmn Mar 2023 #98

And the Royal Family is the British version of Disneyland, pnwmom Mar 2023 #147

Huh? "Meghan Markle needed to be smeared.? brush Mar 2023 #42

Read SPARE. The palace leaks dirt whenever one of their own is vulnerable mainer Mar 2023 #63

Ok. I see. From the flat statement that Meghan needed to be... brush Mar 2023 #67

Spare was shocking to me. MontanaMama Mar 2023 #82

In effect, Harry was protecting his wife, as he should've. brush Mar 2023 #110

There is no hate more consuming than envy. Mopar151 Mar 2023 #119

The royal family is more dysfunctional than Charles Manson's family Ray Bruns Mar 2023 #12

Seriously? pandr32 Mar 2023 #16

Okaaaay Kaleva Mar 2023 #28

I'm no fan of the royals either but come on MustLoveBeagles Mar 2023 #38

That's a horrible thing to say. Cha Mar 2023 #52

No joke. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2023 #25

Ahh sweet Jesus... Peacetrain Mar 2023 #31

Wow MustLoveBeagles Mar 2023 #45

Andrew has his own home, Sunnyville or something Boomerproud Mar 2023 #70

If I had to guess, I would say they are trying to kick him out of that one and downsize him into gldstwmn Mar 2023 #100

Yes, I believe phylny Mar 2023 #107

The article said Andrew was being moved into pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #129

Are they still on their " We demand privacy!" tour? Kaleva Mar 2023 #27

how can we miss them if they won't go away.... nt msongs Mar 2023 #46

There never was one. crickets Mar 2023 #47

bravo bigtree Mar 2023 #68

Harry told Oprah that getting away from the media was a big part of their decision SYFROYH Mar 2023 #142

No, the video does not lie. crickets Mar 2023 #146

You mean their "we're setting the record straight after years of being smeared with pnwmom Mar 2023 #91

I'm not going to give a shit about upper class people Kaleva Mar 2023 #130

I admire Harry so much claudette Mar 2023 #43

I lean that way also Demobrat Mar 2023 #49

Exactly claudette Mar 2023 #69

I'm very impressed that he chose his wife over the Ilsa Mar 2023 #83

Or being specifically targeted by the Taliban. Demobrat Mar 2023 #101

He's got the internet nickname of #CharlestheCruel. irisblue Mar 2023 #44

They never owned the property. kskiska Mar 2023 #48

I agree pinkstarburst Mar 2023 #56

The Firm should pay Harry back the money he spent rehabbing the run down building. nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #92

For as much as Harry and Meghan hate the Royals... I doubt they'd ever return to it anyways. WarGamer Mar 2023 #66

Like it or not canetoad Mar 2023 #74

Andrew is not a working royal mainer Mar 2023 #76

That would exclude Andrew then. He's still in disgrace. nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #94

I think they will all be ok Meowmee Mar 2023 #78

Time for Harry to publish those 400 pages he left out of SPARE mainer Mar 2023 #79

Consequences Sympthsical Mar 2023 #84

I agree totally ripcord Mar 2023 #86

If your family, through your "Firm," spent years smearing you through the tabloids, pnwmom Mar 2023 #95

✔️ That was precisely their point. crickets Mar 2023 #108

I rehabbed my apartment when I lived in it Sympthsical Mar 2023 #131

I'll never understand the defense of the whole Royal Family's vast entitlement, pnwmom Mar 2023 #132

Thank you. kskiska Mar 2023 #134

I hope they are compensated for the money they put into it. gldstwmn Mar 2023 #93

It was refurbished at taxpayer expense. kskiska Mar 2023 #111

Yes, and now they should reimburse Harry for the money he spent on renovations, pnwmom Mar 2023 #112

Exactly. Why is this so hard for people to understand? gldstwmn Mar 2023 #116

That doesn't sound like taxpayer expense. Nt lostnfound Mar 2023 #126

Here's a very recent article from BBC.... Talitha Mar 2023 #113

heh. Andrew doesn't even WANT the cottage lol Takket Mar 2023 #115

The King sends a message. LudwigPastorius Mar 2023 #117

James O'Brien imagines right-wing headlines in an alternate reality Ptah Mar 2023 #133

Meanwhile look at Will and Kate's "Many, many houses" mainer Mar 2023 #137

Look on the bright side, they can make another documentary and write a book about it. SYFROYH Mar 2023 #140

What kind of wedding present takes $2.9 M to refurbish? milestogo Mar 2023 #141

A two hundred year old house in poor condition, with saggy floor joints, ceiling beams, pnwmom Mar 2023 #148

The cottage belongs to the crown Dorian Gray Mar 2023 #149