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madville

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10. Would be devastating for lower income folks

Reply to MichMan (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 9, 2023, 03:41 PM

Apr 2023

They still have to rely on driving 10-30 year old vehicles, many can’t even afford to buy and operate one at today’s prices. Making gas vehicles and gas prohibitively expensive to force the market to EVs is going to cost the consumer a fortune.

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In big climate move, EPA set to unveil tough limits on auto emissions [View all] Zorro Apr 2023 OP

End car culture, EVs only marginally better. Public transit, 15-minute cities. CoopersDad Apr 2023 #1

Rural residents will be required to move to cities unless they get a horse ? MichMan Apr 2023 #12

This creates a sense of existential crisis for Rural people. Model35mech Apr 2023 #16

There will always be cars, the difference is that we will not all be required to own one. CoopersDad Apr 2023 #18

Hardly true for people in rural communities Model35mech Apr 2023 #20

Nobody said that rural people have to change a single thing, keep whatever works for youo. CoopersDad Apr 2023 #23

I don't think that, I think rural people are threated by trashing ICE's and gasoline Model35mech Apr 2023 #30

Nowhere did I suggest that. eom. CoopersDad Apr 2023 #17

What public transportation is available in rural areas? MichMan Apr 2023 #19

I'd rather die than relocate to a city Amishman Apr 2023 #28

industry whines before each and every change in regulation. not often the end of the world dembotoz Apr 2023 #2

car companies are pretty much "all in" on EVs already Takket Apr 2023 #3

The cost prohibitive part will hurt low income people madville Apr 2023 #9

There are millions and millions of gas powered vehicles already out there MichMan Apr 2023 #4

Would be devastating for lower income folks madville Apr 2023 #10

Making gas vehicles prohibitively expensive to own and operate is the goal MichMan Apr 2023 #11

The biggest cut to auto emissions we can make long term is not having children. roamer65 Apr 2023 #15

Yes, that is a big part of the issue. crickets Apr 2023 #21

Plug-in hybrids are a great short term solution Victor_c3 Apr 2023 #5

I'd love to see a flex fuel compatible plug in hybrid. roamer65 Apr 2023 #8

Agriculture itself has huge environmental footprints, comparable to fossil fuels... hunter Apr 2023 #25

and it will be killed by a republican shopped for judge Fullduplexxx Apr 2023 #6

This will end up in the courts for a few years. roamer65 Apr 2023 #7

Remember the outrage over the proposed ban on gas stoves? Victor_c3 Apr 2023 #13

Very true. roamer65 Apr 2023 #14

Awesome! Do animal agriculture next! flvegan Apr 2023 #22

So, only elites will be able to afford new EVs as personal transportation, the poors get horses? Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2023 #24

My nephew lives in San Francisco. hunter Apr 2023 #26

Not everyone lives in densely packed urban centers, you could fit a dozen EU countries inside Texas Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2023 #27

Was I talking about "everyone?" hunter Apr 2023 #29