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Sky Jewels

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37. Yes. The misogyny out there is deeper than we ever could have imagined.
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 01:55 PM
Apr 2023

Last edited Sun Apr 16, 2023, 03:17 PM - Edit history (1)

A significant portion of American men view women with disdain and contempt. They don't view them as fully human. They don't think they are deserving of rights and bodily autonomy. Not only that, they are very angry at women ... for merely existing, I guess?

This comes from places you wouldn't expect. This is just one small example, but I was given Bob Dylan's book Philosophy of Modern Song for Christmas. (I think he's a great songwriter who should have stopped singing in the early 70s, but I digress.) I made it about a third of a way into the book. I had to shelve it, because I was floored by his viscous misogyny and contempt for women. It just jumped off those pages. It literally made me a bit breathless. In the post-Dobbs era, I just didn't have it in me to slog through more of his unhinged stream-of-consciousness babbling about songs mixed in with hatred of women. I guess his "philosophy" is that women are c*nts who are mainly looking to trap and harm men.

Bob Dylan, the voice of his generation, pretty obviously despises the non-penis-having half of the population.

Breathtaking.

Sidenote: Apparently I'm not the only one who was struck by Dylan's women-hating "philosophy":
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2022-10-27/bob-dylan-philosophy-of-modern-song-book-review

on edit: Here's an excerpt from the review:

The women we meet in Dylan’s essays include a “she goat,” a “crazy bitch,” a “gold digging showgirl, full skirted in a cocktail dress” and a “hot-blooded sex starved wench.” Dylan describes women as “pug-nosed, grim faced and short on looks,” “bare breasted, blue veined — short, powerful, and ugly” and “foul-tasting.” Sometimes Dylan sounds like a garden-variety sexist jerk. (“Her voice gets on your nerves — the low drone, the squeaking sounds.”) But he also spews bile from the murkiest depths of the male id. He refers to the labia majora as a “steel trap.” He writes of a woman who “feeds on the entrails of your victims, and if you pull back her skin, you’ll see the head of an animal.”

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:) People remember the unpleasantness of being disagreed with Hortensis Apr 2023 #1
This is a truthful experience in hopes to never repeat and to boston bean Apr 2023 #9
40 years by my count, and I sounded warnings Hortensis Apr 2023 #39
Then you missed it. Cause I definitely had the experience I describe. boston bean Apr 2023 #47
:) I definitely don't doubt you experienced rude attacks on social media. Hortensis Apr 2023 #51
I was attacked on DU over this issue Tumbulu Apr 2023 #61
+1 MrsCoffee Apr 2023 #65
Actually, I am not sure we are even second-class, much less citizens. Chattel. niyad Apr 2023 #2
All of this. onecaliberal Apr 2023 #3
And once we can't breed... even less than that. deurbano Apr 2023 #5
Sadly true. niyad Apr 2023 #6
Well, it is like this. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2023 #68
+1,000,000 2naSalit Apr 2023 #7
See Handmaid's Tale flashman13 Apr 2023 #10
A proposition proved to be true in the case of Republican women. jaxexpat Apr 2023 #17
+1 Can't forget Red States, disenfranchised Dem voters, stolen SCOTUS. Who here predicted book TeamProg Apr 2023 #25
Holy shit, isn't that the truth. johnnyfins Apr 2023 #50
From what I see livestock has better health care than human women Marthe48 Apr 2023 #4
DEAD people have more rights over their bodies than a living woman. OMGWTF Apr 2023 #30
Thanks for the reminder Marthe48 Apr 2023 #32
I hear you Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Apr 2023 #11
It greatly helps our cause when men stand up for reproductive rights,too. Diamond_Dog Apr 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author LymphocyteLover Apr 2023 #13
I hear you but it was always hard to believe they would do it because it seemed like such obvious LymphocyteLover Apr 2023 #14
If conservatism was not the hideout of choice for the masochist and the suicidal...... jaxexpat Apr 2023 #22
+1 TeamProg Apr 2023 #26
Great post. One thing that has continually frustrated me about many on our side is the NewHendoLib Apr 2023 #15
I can not Traildogbob Apr 2023 #16
It doesn't impact most of them anymore? LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #21
Good point. Traildogbob Apr 2023 #27
My thought is... Whatthe_Firetruck Apr 2023 #59
And as recently as last November, there were prominent Democrats saying we shouldn't focus pnwmom Apr 2023 #18
+1 ancianita Apr 2023 #29
+2 betsuni Apr 2023 #38
Fucking-a, this right here. MrsCoffee Apr 2023 #66
This! Hope22 Apr 2023 #19
Well said. Diamond_Dog Apr 2023 #23
Thank you! Hope22 Apr 2023 #41
Good Post ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #36
Thank you. Hope22 Apr 2023 #42
Yes. The misogyny out there is deeper than we ever could have imagined. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #37
I hear you! Hope22 Apr 2023 #43
I'm so sorry that they don't understand. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #44
Thank you. Hope22 Apr 2023 #49
Thank you, you too! Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #62
Dylan also used to physically abuse his wife. 58Sunliner Apr 2023 #54
Ugh. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #56
Dylan can write songs heavy with misogyny. Ligyron Apr 2023 #60
Very truthful posting republianmushroom Apr 2023 #20
Just the other day there were 2 DUers who posited that they didn't see that it could be as bad... Hekate Apr 2023 #24
WHAT?? ShazzieB Apr 2023 #28
Also, all need to be aware that exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother are meaningless Midnight Writer Apr 2023 #31
Oh, God. This. You are absolutely right. Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #57
Women dominate the voting age group . This country is yours for the taking Fullduplexxx Apr 2023 #33
But do they dominate the mail-in ballots? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2023 #53
I never imagine the fools would kill the golden goose Rural_Progressive Apr 2023 #34
Yes, we are steeped in VERY misogynistic religious framing that permeates our entire culture. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #40
I don't think Snackshack Apr 2023 #35
Dubya [well, Cheney, Baker, et al] fucking stole a presidential election. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #45
Thee is a war on women and women reproductive rights LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #46
boston bean.......Thank you for this post... Upthevibe Apr 2023 #48
That was reasonable until TFG's treestar Apr 2023 #52
Yes, what you hear now is silence. 58Sunliner Apr 2023 #55
This should never be forgotten. Thank you for reminding us. Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #58
We must fight complacency JT45242 Apr 2023 #63
I remember JustAnotherGen Apr 2023 #64
Everyone here should know by now that christo-fascists Roisin Ni Fiachra Apr 2023 #67
Many of those naysayers are on the far left Kaleva Apr 2023 #69
Birth Control is next on their hit list Random Boomer Apr 2023 #70
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