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In reply to the discussion: A disturbing new detail about the photo of the classified documents found in Trump's possession... [View all]pnwmom
(109,845 posts)22. Somebody replied that the cover sheets might be fakes bought on ETSY.
https://www.dailykos.com/comments/2171698/86258506#comment_86258506
Note that there is no form number on the white-bordered Trump cover sheets. Photocopying does not explain the absence of those markings. What that tells me that the cover sheet was not an official government form. Instead, Trump probably ordered them on Etsy. www.etsy.com/ (not the precise item, but Im sure there are other listings and non-Etsy sources).
I also dont see staples in any of the Trump cover sheets with white borders. While that could be a photo quality issue, it could also mean that the Etsy cover sheets werent attached to actual secret (or non-secret) documents.
SNIP
Does that mean that Trump was printing multiple copies of secret documents, but didnt want to splurge on a color copier to copy the cover sheets? Was he using Etsy cover sheets to pass off non-secret documents as secret? Or was he just using the Etsy sheets as party favors? I dont know, but I am rather confident that your diary does not prove what it set out to prove.
Final point: How do you know that the pages in the photo were the standard sheets of paper for which everyone knows the size? (Do you think Trump couldnt print half-sheets or poster-size sheets of paper?) You know that these were standard-size sheets of paper because the FBI put a ruler next to them. That is standard procedure. Otherwise, an agent would have to testify that the pages were 8.5 by 11, and would be asked Did you measure them? Are you certain that they werent 9 x 11.5? And if you are lying to the jury about that, what else are you lying about? If you were that sloppy, what else about this investigation was sloppy?
Note that there is no form number on the white-bordered Trump cover sheets. Photocopying does not explain the absence of those markings. What that tells me that the cover sheet was not an official government form. Instead, Trump probably ordered them on Etsy. www.etsy.com/ (not the precise item, but Im sure there are other listings and non-Etsy sources).
I also dont see staples in any of the Trump cover sheets with white borders. While that could be a photo quality issue, it could also mean that the Etsy cover sheets werent attached to actual secret (or non-secret) documents.
SNIP
Does that mean that Trump was printing multiple copies of secret documents, but didnt want to splurge on a color copier to copy the cover sheets? Was he using Etsy cover sheets to pass off non-secret documents as secret? Or was he just using the Etsy sheets as party favors? I dont know, but I am rather confident that your diary does not prove what it set out to prove.
Final point: How do you know that the pages in the photo were the standard sheets of paper for which everyone knows the size? (Do you think Trump couldnt print half-sheets or poster-size sheets of paper?) You know that these were standard-size sheets of paper because the FBI put a ruler next to them. That is standard procedure. Otherwise, an agent would have to testify that the pages were 8.5 by 11, and would be asked Did you measure them? Are you certain that they werent 9 x 11.5? And if you are lying to the jury about that, what else are you lying about? If you were that sloppy, what else about this investigation was sloppy?
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A disturbing new detail about the photo of the classified documents found in Trump's possession... [View all]
Shipwack
May 2023
OP
simply put, the picture that was taken of the secret document cover sheets at Mar A Lago
drray23
May 2023
#4
That or traded for current and or future favors such as a safe harbour to do a Snowden.
cstanleytech
May 2023
#67
pics (some of the Trump docs' cover sheets do not bleed to the edge, so they are perhaps copies)
Celerity
May 2023
#24
I think? If you were just making a copy for content, you wouldn't waste color ink.
forgotmylogin
May 2023
#38
This country has been through worse events than Trump. 1. CIVIL WAR 2. WORLD WAR 1 . WORLD WAR 2,
Stuart G
May 2023
#33
Unfortunately I think even when he's dead we'll still be learning of the scope of his crimes.
Axelrods_Typewriter
May 2023
#68
Yup - I remember the smell of the mimeograph solution and the smear of the carbon copies.
erronis
May 2023
#44
It's possible that he made copies of docs before turning over original docs to FBI in June
wishstar
May 2023
#43
If it was truly OK for Trump to have classified docs, there would be no need for him to lie about it
keithbvadu2
May 2023
#60
The article said that there are indications that the copies were made outside the White House.
yardwork
May 2023
#72
And we must wonder why he was/is so insistent on saying he "de-classified" them??
kentuck
May 2023
#74