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83. You keep saying that but you never explain why its a separate issue.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 03:21 PM
Jun 2023

Costs are costs. And if its the cost that is preventing minorities from playing youth baseball in the US, why doesn't the cost have that impact in the Caribbean.

The reality is that its more about cultural factors than cost. Minority kids are playing youth football, and its not any cheaper than baseball in terms of equipment. Indeed, at the youngest level of the sport, football is significantly more expensive since pee wee football players still need helmets, cleats, shoulder pads, padded uniforms. Pee wee baseball players use inexpensive bats, share helmets, and wear t-shirts.

College baseball is almost [View all] Casady1 Jun 2023 OP
It's not just college. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2023 #1
Where did you get those numbers? onenote Jun 2023 #3
here Ferrets are Cool Jun 2023 #4
Not sure what those numbers reflect, but 1.7% of professional baseball players aren't women. onenote Jun 2023 #6
That site says the average salary in MLB is 52k. Mosby Jun 2023 #9
I wonder if they may be including minor league baseball in those averages. Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #33
The minimun salary for a MLB player this season is $720,000. The average cannot be 52k. FSogol Jun 2023 #57
! This entire thread is nonsense! we can do it Jun 2023 #63
If it's just the cost, how is it that over 150 major leaguers are from the Dominican Republic? onenote Jun 2023 #2
Caribbean Casady1 Jun 2023 #91
I don't think you get to decide what is or isn't part of a discussion on this board. onenote Jun 2023 #108
Baseball lost its preeminence as the top sport in America decades ago. brush Jun 2023 #5
Ton's of 3 point shots Casady1 Jun 2023 #14
But basketball and football have filled arenas. brush Jun 2023 #35
Can't speak for every minority group but basketball is far and away the most popular sport Takket Jun 2023 #7
Go back to Willie Mays Casady1 Jun 2023 #12
college baseball isn't as popular because you are still years from MLB Takket Jun 2023 #23
Not quite. Football is even more expensive to play than baseball... brush Jun 2023 #36
It really depends on how you play and who bears the cost. I have ... Whiskeytide Jun 2023 #74
Your saying "he has never played travel orleague football makes my point. brush Jun 2023 #75
I'm not sure what point you see each of us countering. You said that ... Whiskeytide Jun 2023 #81
There are a lot Casady1 Jun 2023 #90
My point is that football is at least as expensive as baseball. brush Jun 2023 #92
How much experience Casady1 Jun 2023 #94
Played all of them. Football equipment is expensive. Been there, done that. brush Jun 2023 #95
What years did you participate? Casady1 Jun 2023 #96
I'm sorry. That's just wrong from the player's perspective. A travel .... Whiskeytide Jun 2023 #99
Football equipment,shoulder pads, other pads, helmet, shoes, uniforms, travel expenses... brush Jun 2023 #101
But my entire point is that the PLAYER doesn't ... Whiskeytide Jun 2023 #105
Ok, but isn't this OP about college baseball? brush Jun 2023 #107
You got it right Casady1 Jun 2023 #102
Thanks. It's a little tiring. I need a whiskey. n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2023 #106
huh... interesting i looked it up, the numbers of whites in D-1 mens baseball is shrinking ever year Takket Jun 2023 #8
no Celerity Jun 2023 #10
The cost of baseball I mentioned is in Casady1 Jun 2023 #11
Disagree, and you did not effectively rebut my points at all IMHO. You are sliding goalposts and Celerity Jun 2023 #16
Funny last Casady1 Jun 2023 #19
anecdotal and also non responsive to my points, you are just repeating your original argument nt Celerity Jun 2023 #22
When was last Casady1 Jun 2023 #26
logical fallacy Celerity Jun 2023 #27
Whatever Casady1 Jun 2023 #79
I am not a 'Mr' nor a 'guy', and you are simply using more fallacies (ad hominem attacks) which only Celerity Jun 2023 #123
Outfitting a youth football team costs more than outfitting a youth baseball team. onenote Jun 2023 #46
Football is at least as expensive to play as baseball, from high school to college... brush Jun 2023 #70
That's cheep. hardluck Jun 2023 #71
Swimming is also expensive xmas74 Jun 2023 #124
Bats and gloves aren't nearly that much Polybius Jun 2023 #73
Go look at the prices Casady1 Jun 2023 #93
Overpriced and exceptional equiptment Polybius Jun 2023 #109
When was the last time Casady1 Jun 2023 #112
2020 myself Polybius Jun 2023 #115
Why do you people Casady1 Jun 2023 #113
I have been involved Polybius Jun 2023 #114
Why do you think that what gets kids playing baseball ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #118
Football is more evpensive to play than baseball even. brush Jun 2023 #37
They don't have travel baseball in those countries jmowreader Jun 2023 #89
more non responsiveness to my points nt Celerity Jun 2023 #97
You're confusing apples and oranges ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #121
on the actual subject... Snooper9 Jun 2023 #122
you're right about the number of players from often poor countries in MLB, but that is a separate fishwax Jun 2023 #110
Best post on this thread, helps to clarify the issue. radius777 Jun 2023 #116
What do you base that on? lpbk2713 Jun 2023 #13
I coached Casady1 Jun 2023 #15
Good glove and bat in the youth program is between $400-$600 edisdead Jun 2023 #17
This is true Casady1 Jun 2023 #20
of course both my kids play hockey edisdead Jun 2023 #24
Louisville Slugger around $40... WarGamer Jun 2023 #18
Lol Casady1 Jun 2023 #21
But kids get into baseball and football before they're 11 years old onenote Jun 2023 #47
a $40 glove is garbage. edisdead Jun 2023 #25
Football is even more expensive to play. brush Jun 2023 #39
As others have said - it's about interest level not race or class when it comes radius777 Jun 2023 #28
Caribbean players Casady1 Jun 2023 #30
How are they not relevant? The claim was the expense kept POC from playing baseball in the US onenote Jun 2023 #48
This applies to the USA Casady1 Jun 2023 #54
Yes. A very poor environment. Which undercuts the argument that cost explains the dearth of onenote Jun 2023 #62
When was the last time you coached Casady1 Jun 2023 #80
Not relevant. The same kids that you say can't afford baseball can afford football. onenote Jun 2023 #82
There are many poor countries in the world radius777 Jun 2023 #69
Latin and Asian countries don't have highschool ad college football. brush Jun 2023 #40
Simply not true that baseball has lost appeal - it is 2nd behind the NFL radius777 Jun 2023 #41
If you play 162 games of course you'll have more revenue... brush Jun 2023 #43
And demand for baseball endures despite that long season. radius777 Jun 2023 #66
That's why it's a favorite of white people. underpants Jun 2023 #29
Are you saying it's a favorite of white people TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #34
Yes. underpants Jun 2023 #45
So that's why white America's hate football? lol EX500rider Jun 2023 #64
If lack of blacks make a sport more popular with whites then please explain the NHL to me Takket Jun 2023 #44
What do you mean? There are hardly any Black NHL players either... brush Jun 2023 #68
exactly...... Takket Jun 2023 #76
I don't quite get that logic. Hockey is Canadian origin and started with just 6 original teams... brush Jun 2023 #77
I doubt that many people distinguish between a Black player from the Dominican Republic onenote Jun 2023 #49
In your opinion Casady1 Jun 2023 #55
So is football. But minorities predominate in football. onenote Jun 2023 #61
+1. This argument that 'baseball is too expensive to play' is absurd. radius777 Jun 2023 #67
Is baseball more popular among whites than Football ? JI7 Jun 2023 #104
this quickly becomes a "Black poor" thread. Gymnastics and Ice skating is pricey for parents BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #31
Same was said about tennis and golf too treestar Jun 2023 #56
Maybe it's because baseball bamagal62 Jun 2023 #32
+1. They should keep stats on tobacco spitting and crotch scratching dalton99a Jun 2023 #38
Yep. A lot of standing bamagal62 Jun 2023 #42
There's a lot of standing around in football. onenote Jun 2023 #51
There's little real action in football TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #87
There's some irony in this AntivaxHunters Jun 2023 #50
Your living in the past Casady1 Jun 2023 #58
"Most minorities bypass the sport" flvegan Jun 2023 #52
American minorities Casady1 Jun 2023 #59
You keep saying that but you never explain why its a separate issue. onenote Jun 2023 #83
It is expensive but more about options and optics Buckeyeblue Jun 2023 #53
There are scholarships Casady1 Jun 2023 #60
There are 11.7 scholarships per team in college baseball TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #85
Not enough for a team Casady1 Jun 2023 #86
That wasn't what you said TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #88
Excellent recap. underpants Jun 2023 #65
The kids are better now because of the training they get Buckeyeblue Jun 2023 #72
Red shirting and hockey players underpants Jun 2023 #78
Honestly Casady1 Jun 2023 #84
That's the problem with our national soccer program. underpants Jun 2023 #98
My friend is very involved with Casady1 Jun 2023 #100
It just has to do with lack of interest. Maybe there could be more effort JI7 Jun 2023 #103
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 "reach out and try to get more diverse groups " is what multiple studies done by uponit7771 Jun 2023 #111
How much more diverse do they need to be? ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #119
Baseball isn't really all that expensive ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #117
um, not- Snooper9 Jun 2023 #120
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