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CarlitosMMT

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33. When you GOTV they don't matter

Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:56 AM

Jun 2023

These are well known facts about the end of the campaign. But you are still pissed, rightfully so, but not thinking clearly. We all thought Hillary would win. The lesson is not taking things for granted and the solution is not continuing to alienate left voters in broad swaths further energizing their disaffection.
The responsibility for a campaign is with the politician.

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Just a reminder- today is yet another consequence of not getting out the vote in 2016 for Hillary [View all] dsp3000 Jun 2023 OP

But, y'know, her emails... Mister Ed Jun 2023 #1

You got that right! raging moderate Jun 2023 #2

But... neoliberal third way incrementalist establishment! Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #3

Corporate shill liberal elite corrupt status quo lesser of two evils Wall St. Wall St. Wall St. betsuni Jun 2023 #17

Just a reminder Autumn Jun 2023 #4

To provide a reality check... regnaD kciN Jun 2023 #5

Trump won those three states by 79,316 votes. He would not have even come close with winning Autumn Jun 2023 #6

The evidence from the time made it clear that Gary Johnson took more vote from HRC than from Trump. StevieM Jun 2023 #15

That is untrue...that is a bedtime story that those mostly on the left like Stein and some who Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #54

So true yankee87 Jul 2023 #63

The Libertarian Party actually has some real differences in ideology from Republicans. W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #21

Your evidence makes it even more clear that the OP is correct. W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #20

I'm right there with ya, W_HAMILTON. calimary Jun 2023 #31

or Bush stealing the election from Gore leftstreet Jun 2023 #7

Nice try iemanja Jun 2023 #12

If only Ginsburg had retired leftstreet Jun 2023 #19

It wouldn't have mattered because it would still be 5-4. If only everyone on the left voted... W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #23

And the MAGATS will say, "Hell, yeah". I caught the last ... TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #8

Hard to forget. Ultimately, too many Democrats protest voting gave us trump, Silent Type Jun 2023 #9

I remember phone banking for weeks for Hillary mahina Jun 2023 #10

It wasn't about GoTV iemanja Jun 2023 #11

True. Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #41

This, and Russian money to do it with Hekate Jul 2023 #73

K&R 2naSalit Jun 2023 #13

I think it's more about liberal justices not retiring when Obama was in the White House. mudstump Jun 2023 #14

You think wrong then. W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #25

I agree. Autumn Jul 2023 #51

A Justice died while Obama was in the White House and he wasn't allowed to replace him. yardwork Jul 2023 #53

Bull. Check Mitch McConnell's record. Hekate Jul 2023 #70

This is so insane. 2016 was all about James Comey. StevieM Jun 2023 #16

No it wasn't. I don't say Comey didn't have an effect but those on the left who voted for Stein Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #56

"I told you" ism isn't particualry helpful at this moment Model35mech Jul 2023 #68

Her campaign blew it CarlitosMMT Jun 2023 #18

+++. Wisconsin still needs help. Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #22

Montana's Jon Tester will need help Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #24

Her campaign didn't blow it. The voters blew it. W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #27

When you GOTV they don't matter CarlitosMMT Jun 2023 #33

What do you mean by continuing to alienate left voters in broad swaths? betsuni Jun 2023 #39

Everything you said in that post is flat wrong. yardwork Jul 2023 #61

+10 million Arazi Jun 2023 #30

Welcome to DU, CarlitosMMT! calimary Jun 2023 #34

No. In Pennsylvania she had 500 staff, more than the Obama campaign, spent betsuni Jun 2023 #38

Thank you for fighting the same old propaganda with facts. yardwork Jul 2023 #60

Excellent post. Thank you for correcting the record. StevieM Jul 2023 #66

It's a shame it's still necessary. It just won't go away. betsuni Jul 2023 #74

Your post proves the OP's point. yardwork Jul 2023 #58

She won by 3 million votes & her people worked like all get out. Jill Stein's bosses ... Hekate Jul 2023 #71

Vlad figured out how to rig The EC by watching W and Rove in 2000. czarjak Jun 2023 #26

Y'all are getting trolled by a low post-count FReeper shill. Tarc Jun 2023 #28

Explain what you mean by "stirring up 2016 all over again" Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #42

It wasn't hard to understand, bud Tarc Jun 2023 #46

Not hard at all. I just wanted you to go on record with it, to eliminate any plausible deniability. Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #48

Then maybe 11% of the bernbots ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #50

+1 betsuni Jul 2023 #75

There are so many of them in this thread I don't even know where to start Hekate Jul 2023 #64

I hope you did Hekate Jul 2023 #69

Today is also a reminder PlutosHeart Jun 2023 #29

Vexing that people need to see actual consequences BaronChocula Jun 2023 #32

And even then it still doesn't seem like they get it ecstatic Jun 2023 #36

Oh, I feel your pain. BaronChocula Jul 2023 #52

Oh yes. I had a fresh round of anger about 2016 today ecstatic Jun 2023 #35

There were many right here that were so mad that bernie did not get the nomination they didn't vote PortTack Jun 2023 #37

The obligatory "Blame Bernie" post. Jokerman Jun 2023 #43

I don't believe for a minute that Bernie would've beat Trump in either election. Jedi Guy Jun 2023 #45

Well I know more than a few. And studies show the number of votes given to Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #55

Bernie didn't win the nomination. There was no way he'd win the GE. yardwork Jul 2023 #62

Only ONE QUARTER of his primary voters. THREE QUARTERS always Hortensis Jun 2023 #44

Just a reminder GenThePerservering Jun 2023 #40

Blame the electoral college and russians and Mitch the turtle RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2023 #47

Hillary warned us LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #49

Not Electing Hillary Clinton Was Our Biggest Mistake LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #57

No, the basic problem is the existence of the Electoral College DavidDvorkin Jul 2023 #59

May I politely ask what is the point of this entire thread? Hekate Jul 2023 #65

OP was posted on Thursday after the SCOTUS decisions. ecstatic Jul 2023 #76

I think this horse GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #67

We got out the vote edhopper Jul 2023 #72