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Tommy Carcetti

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Tue Sep 12, 2023, 03:14 PM Sep 2023

Remember Whitewater? [View all]

Well, maybe we political nerds do.

Most ordinary Americans probably don't. Even those who were around in the 90s.

Whitewater was the byzantine, nebulous "scandal" alleged against the Clintons that lead to the appointment of a Special Prosecutor--first Robert Fiske, but subsequently the late and infamous Ken Starr.

Ask anyone what Whitewater was actually about and it's doubtful they'd tell you.

There was something about a land deal in Arkansas, a defunct savings-and-loan, bank records, billing records, and--wait, your eyes are glazing over already, right?

It all was terminally dull, confusing, and most importantly of all, didn't seem to actually implicate the Clintons in anything. The hope was that it would lead to something scintillating and shocking that would outrage Americans and turn them against President Clinton. Or at least mire them in rumor and innuendo of wrongdoing.

But nobody cared. Nobody had any sort of reason to care, because there was nothing to care about. It was the biggest non-story of non-stories.

Once Starr had commandeered the Special Prosecutor ship, he realized the Americans' complete sense of apathy towards the Whitewater story. And thus he somehow was able to parlay it from a vague, confusing two-decades old financial matter into allegations of more recent inappropriate personal behavior by President Clinton--namely the Paula Jones sexual harassment civil suit. How he managed that turn of events, I'm still not 100% sure. But nonetheless, it eventually lead to the discovery of a consensual relationship between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, which Clinton subsequently denied under oath, and in turn which Republicans ultimately used for purposes of impeachment.

That scandal Americans do remember.

Of course, the economy was absolutely roaring under President Clinton, and most Americans didn't feel the need to make an impeachment issue over what was at most a personal failing by the President.

Still, the Republicans got the impeachment of President Clinton that they had always wanted, as laughable and unpopular as it was. And despite President Clinton's obvious acquittal in the Senate, the scandal did still leave an embarrassing mark on his personal legacy.

But it wasn't over Whitewater.

It's not exactly clear what Republicans want to impeach President Biden over. They've drudged up various bank statements and made references to his son and his financial dealings. There's references to supposed shell companies and beneficiaries and money transfers and--your eyes are glazing over again, right?

This all is just Whitewater 2.0--a confusing twisted-up financial story that most likely won't reveal any actual wrongdoing by the President, and won't actually grab the attention of Americans by storm because it is neither straight-forward and simple (as was the case in Donald Trump's two impeachments) nor salacious and sexy (as it was with President Clinton's impeachment).

The bad news for Republicans in this case, however, is that there's unlikely to be a Lewinsky story at the end of the proverbial rainbow that they can massage into it in order to spice it up.

And so this, like Whitewater, will eventually disappear into the ether, never to be remembered and never to be understood.

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Remember Whitewater? [View all] Tommy Carcetti Sep 2023 OP
K & R n/t FSogol Sep 2023 #1
biggest non-story of non-stories, post- nixon! elleng Sep 2023 #2
Secret foreign informants who can't be found will be the cornerstone of the farce until they find NoMoreRepugs Sep 2023 #3
It was fishing expedition just like their impeachment of Biden, it will go on doc03 Sep 2023 #4
It is also used to normalize the impeachment of TFG. Claustrum Sep 2023 #7
This!! WestMichRad Sep 2023 #26
They tried to impeach Biden the day after he was sworn in. alfredo Sep 2023 #12
It's their MO. Create investigations on phony scsbdaks in order to wnylib Sep 2023 #15
Another non-scandal scandal "her emails" tetedur Sep 2023 #5
Yeah. But ask average Americans Claustrum Sep 2023 #8
True story Cosmocat Sep 2023 #14
Whitewater was my first thought. They want the headlines and the open ended investigation so themaguffin Sep 2023 #6
They did get Hunter's Dick pics. madinmaryland Sep 2023 #9
And Brett Kavanaugh. He was supposedly the one who added as much salacious material as Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #18
Drooling 🤤. rubbersole Sep 2023 #21
I remember it well... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #10
Yes.....n/t Hope22 Sep 2023 #11
Fortunately Joe Biden has more impulse control over his zipper than Bill did Cosmocat Sep 2023 #13
Is that when Hillary started wearing pant suits ? Rep meltdown. twodogsbarking Sep 2023 #16
Other points to remember about Whitewater: robbob Sep 2023 #17
Yes Snackshack Sep 2023 #19
They will try to impeach Biden twice Bayard Sep 2023 #20
No, no they don't. rubbersole Sep 2023 #22
I'll tell you inthewind21 Sep 2023 #23
Republicans are just plain backwards. Warpy Sep 2023 #24
If you have not read, "The Destructionists: the 25 year crack-up of the niyad Sep 2023 #25
This is a more extreme effort than Benghazi or the emails Jarqui Sep 2023 #27
The problem is that the media grants republicans a freeroll on any random accusation unblock Sep 2023 #28
It's about the news, not the facts. See traitortrump's "perfect phone call" to Zelensky. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #29
They want dems and independents to stay home/not vote mucifer Sep 2023 #30
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