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Demovictory9

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Sat Oct 7, 2023, 06:42 AM Oct 2023

Two Families Got Fed Up With Their States' Politics. So They Moved Out. 1 to blue, 1 to red state [View all]

Two Families Got Fed Up With Their States’ Politics. So They Moved Out.
The Nobles of Iowa moved to blue Minnesota. The Huckinses of Oregon moved to red Missouri. Their separate journeys, five weeks apart, illustrate the fracturing of America.


Mr. Huckins and his wife, Ginger, were leaving Portland, Ore., one of the most progressive cities in the United States. They said Portland’s tolerance of homeless encampments, along with the open use of hard drugs and rising crime, had filled them with despair. So they headed 2,000 miles east, to deep-red rural Missouri.

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“One thing I do like about Missouri, there’s lots of American flags,” Mr. Huckins said as he steered around a traffic circle where the Stars and Stripes flapped crisply on a pole. “In Portland, the American flag was offensive.”

One day earlier, in a neighboring state, another couple making a politically motivated move had a different flag on display — a Pride flag on a T-shirt.

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Their only child, Julien, came out as transgender at age 11. Now 16, Julien uses prescription testosterone. After Iowa banned gender-affirming medical care for minors, criminalizing their son’s treatments, the Nobles — lifelong Iowans — concluded they had to get out.

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Americans are increasingly fracturing as a people, and some are taking the extraordinary step of moving to escape a political or social climate they abhor. Democrats have left Iowa, Texas and other red states as Republicans have moved out of California, Oregon and other blue states, often over their views on issues like abortion, transgender rights, school curriculums, guns, race and a host of other matters.

Ms. Huckins and her husband visited a farm called Shared Bounty, where they were surprised to find that payment was on the honor system.


The Huckins family and the Noble family have not met, yet their journeys — from blue Oregon to red Missouri, and from red Iowa to blue Minnesota — mirror each other, unfolding only five weeks apart this spring. One family relocated because of a single issue — restrictions on transgender rights — while the other believed a broad swath of progressive policies had degraded their quality of life. But both families used strikingly similar language to describe their main concern: the need for personal safety.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/07/us/politics/politics-states-moving.html
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Leave it to the NYT to "Both Side" This Topic Indykatie Oct 2023 #1
I noticed the same thing about the couple who moved to Missouri. GoneOffShore Oct 2023 #2
It sounded to me that they were unhappy with the state's progressive politics Diamond_Dog Oct 2023 #13
There is a measureable exodus from blue states to red due to politics Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #18
People have been moving from red areas only forever ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #28
My right wing neighbor asked why do I stay in Indiana, I Emile Oct 2023 #3
Good for you! Marthe48 Oct 2023 #10
You are a better person than I. AwakeAtLast Oct 2023 #37
By the looks of them in that picture, the Huckins won't last long NickB79 Oct 2023 #4
With the nearest clinic 40 miles away, and hours to the nearest real hospital hatrack Oct 2023 #6
Thank you Delphinus Oct 2023 #9
They're a spitting image of my aunt and uncle NickB79 Oct 2023 #11
But they are looking on the bright side DFW Oct 2023 #14
So true! Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #27
I noticed the same. They're probably on government disability. yardwork Oct 2023 #19
I thought the same thing. Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #26
He has heart failure..not just fat Demovictory9 Oct 2023 #32
Thanks, exactly what I wanted to say. Btw, bet both suck at the Medicare/Medicaid teat + Social ... machoneman Oct 2023 #29
Ohio sucks since turning Red samplegirl Oct 2023 #5
Ohio has changed Marthe48 Oct 2023 #12
I hope too samplegirl Oct 2023 #15
The district map thing really discourages me. Diamond_Dog Oct 2023 #16
Maybe seeing gop pols get accused, arrested,convicted Marthe48 Oct 2023 #17
Kick dalton99a Oct 2023 #7
I live in a deep red part of MI and see no reason to move Kaleva Oct 2023 #8
It is happening though. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #22
About 5 million people moved to another state in 2021 Kaleva Oct 2023 #34
there's a term for this. "The Great Sort" Takket Oct 2023 #20
Nawh. Many of the redder R's will die long before then, having rejected vaccines, healthy living... machoneman Oct 2023 #31
Wondering how many shitstain supporters will be dead by November 2024 . . . hatrack Oct 2023 #35
Politics was a big factor in our decision 30 years ago. Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #21
I wonder why these folks just didn't move to another neighborhood or city Diamond_Dog Oct 2023 #23
I know, there are plenty of red areas in Oregon. Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #24
We'd leave Indiana if we could.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #25
My stepsister is in this boat. ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #30
I wouldn't substitute flags for healthcare XanaDUer2 Oct 2023 #33
But but he is bragging about only paying $9 per week for trash pick up Demovictory9 Oct 2023 #36
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