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89. I don't understand your argument. Those members do identify as democratic socialists

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 03:07 PM

Oct 2023

and they are elected Democrats. It's a big tent party, one doesn't have to give up also identifying as other things.

AOC will explain. Being a democratic socialist is "part of what I am, it's not all of what I am. ... Democrats are a big tent party. I'm not trying to impose an ideology on all several hundred members of Congress."

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List of Democratic Socialists of America public officeholders [View all] brooklynite Oct 2023 OP

Yeah, I'll be waiting.. Cha Oct 2023 #1

Isn't Katie Porter affiliated in some way? JustAnotherGen Oct 2023 #2

I can't find anything on Cha Oct 2023 #6

Endorsing Nina Turner for *anything* is the kind of thing an asshole would do. Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #8

Yeah, not very smart Cha Oct 2023 #10

In short - the "squad" question everything Oct 2023 #16

Some of it. Cha Oct 2023 #18

Cori Bush is one of the few that still say "defund the police" Polybius Oct 2023 #64

Update on Rep Bowman.. DSA is Mad at hm & Cha Oct 2023 #76

Ah. I piece of the puzzle was missing for me. Igel Oct 2023 #3

Here question everything Oct 2023 #17

Both sides in the conflict have committed atrocities in the past ..... anciano Oct 2023 #4

I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #5

Mahalo!🤷‍♀️💕 Cha Oct 2023 #9

This is about DSA Cheering on Cha Oct 2023 #7

Of course they do ripcord Oct 2023 #11

Israel has never deliberately killed civilians and never took any civilians hostages question everything Oct 2023 #15

BULLSHIT! justaprogressive Oct 2023 #22

Thank you. anciano Oct 2023 #30

Really. That post conveniently ignores the 1967 and 1973 unprovoked attemp by the neighboring Arab JohnSJ Oct 2023 #110

It also leaves out any mention of Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and lapucelle Oct 2023 #116

and the mufti was an antisemitite in his own right JohnSJ Oct 2023 #119

What kind of journalist writes a "history", but leaves out the guy who collaborated with the Nazis? lapucelle Oct 2023 #115

I will visit your post once Hanas will start executing hostages in front of the world question everything Oct 2023 #122

THat is not true at all obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #52

Examples? And not the ones who planted themselves in a middle of a war question everything Oct 2023 #55

It's not that they can't distinguish between the two, it's that they don't want to tritsofme Oct 2023 #95

Also, the examples used were the result of the 1967 and 1973 unprovoked wars against Israel to JohnSJ Oct 2023 #111

That's a very charitable assessment. Orrex Oct 2023 #121

4000 years? Islam began in 610 AD. toesonthenose Oct 2023 #94

Good question .... anciano Oct 2023 #105

Time to smear the socialists? roamer65 Oct 2023 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2023 #13

That was then.. this is NOW Cha Oct 2023 #14

No, no, no...they're DEMOCRATIC Socialists... brooklynite Oct 2023 #19

In '33, the national socialists killed the democratic socialists in Germany carpetbagger Oct 2023 #73

This is America they can support Palestine if they chose to. Autumn Oct 2023 #20

Yes, there is a concerted effort by some to conflate supporting Palestinians and/or criticising Celerity Oct 2023 #24

Yes. With the added bonus that they can smear some very good Democrats. Autumn Oct 2023 #26

Yup, exactly obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #53

Any conflation complaint should be addressed to the actual conflaters: NYC-DSA. lapucelle Oct 2023 #117

I will address my replies to whom I choose to address them to. Celerity Oct 2023 #120

You replied in an OP about the DSA lapucelle Oct 2023 #123

Thank you. Elim Garak Oct 2023 #28

No thanks needed. I don't need to follow any accepted narrative. I have watched for years what Autumn Oct 2023 #31

Thank you. anciano Oct 2023 #29

I support the people of Palestine and I support the people of Israel. Their leaders suck big time. Autumn Oct 2023 #34

Well said, and thank you for your posts in this thread. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #35

What on earth are y'all gonna do when justaprogressive Oct 2023 #21

+1 Emile Oct 2023 #25

People like the squad will never come close to 2/3 of Congress. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #37

You are very wrong. Thank goodness. Young people see what is wrong with this country Autumn Oct 2023 #83

I'm only in my mid-40's so I have plenty of elections left. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #85

And no, no one is supporting any atrocities. Looking at something and seeing both sides Autumn Oct 2023 #88

Getting their news from Facebook and Tik Tok is part of the problem. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #91

Don't know a lot of you people do you? Have a nice day, I'm done here. Autumn Oct 2023 #92

"Doxing"!? Are you saying they're Cha Oct 2023 #67

As if DSA membership is top secret personal info! Those members identify as democratic socialists. betsuni Oct 2023 #70

IKR... "Doxing"? Really?!! Cha Oct 2023 #74

You obviously. Many identify as Democrats, like AOC, Corie Bush and Jamal Bowman. Autumn Oct 2023 #80

Where do I say they aren't Democrats, elected members of the Democratic Party? betsuni Oct 2023 #82

You said Autumn Oct 2023 #86

I don't understand your argument. Those members do identify as democratic socialists betsuni Oct 2023 #89

They identify themselves Democrats. They belong to an organization. . Autumn Oct 2023 #106

They're Democrats who are democratic socialists. Elected members of the party are Democrats. betsuni Oct 2023 #109

Doxxing is publicizing personal information about public (broadly defined) people carpetbagger Oct 2023 #75

I'm not sure you know the meaning of that word. egduj Oct 2023 #118

Crickets dalton99a Oct 2023 #23

You should self delete this divisive post Emile Oct 2023 #27

IMO it's an excellent thread..... anciano Oct 2023 #32

So that's what we're calling it today! Emile Oct 2023 #33

I think his excellent post should remain. Marius25 Oct 2023 #38

We will disagree on this one Emile Oct 2023 #40

Unfortunately the rules here are ridiculous enough to the point that we can't call out Marius25 Oct 2023 #42

Care to name these Democratic politicians Emile Oct 2023 #47

Nope, since it's against the rules. Marius25 Oct 2023 #49

That's a very thin line you are on. Emile Oct 2023 #50

No it is NOT "Bashing" Cha Oct 2023 #81

"The Pro-Palestinian position has always been about Antisemitism" redqueen Oct 2023 #51

If you think Israel should be eliminated, or you ignore Palestinian/Arab apartheid against Jews, yes Marius25 Oct 2023 #54

Are you aware you're spreading misinformation? redqueen Oct 2023 #71

No he should NOT "delete".. Cha Oct 2023 #78

I think the pro-terrorism rally DSA hosted yesterday was a bit more divisive. tritsofme Oct 2023 #96

"Palestine/Hamas" why are you conflating the two? redqueen Oct 2023 #36

There's no difference. Most Palestinians support Hamas. Marius25 Oct 2023 #39

"Most Palestinians support Hamas"? Source? redqueen Oct 2023 #41

Here: If elections were held in the West Bank today, Hamas would win power there too Marius25 Oct 2023 #43

53% redqueen Oct 2023 #44

To 14% for Fatah. Marius25 Oct 2023 #45

I admit that you're damning an entire country redqueen Oct 2023 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Marius25 Oct 2023 #48

In 1932, Hitler got less then 40% of the vote Kaleva Oct 2023 #56

Why do you suppose there have been no elections in the Palestinian territories since 2006? tritsofme Oct 2023 #97

It's NYC-DSA that is guilty of the conflation. lapucelle Oct 2023 #59

"Pariah status awaits" lapucelle Oct 2023 #69

I think a lot of people are going to be in shock AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #57

... lapucelle Oct 2023 #65

This seems a bit ham-handed Sympthsical Oct 2023 #58

New York State Democratic Party statement on the rally. lapucelle Oct 2023 #60

Mahalo for The Statement from the Dem Cha Oct 2023 #84

Thanks again, lapucelle, you are really bringing it. Nixie Oct 2023 #113

... lapucelle Oct 2023 #114

New York Democrats are *still waiting* ... lapucelle Oct 2023 #61

Kshama Sawant of Seattle is perhaps the most extreme on that list Polybius Oct 2023 #62

NYC Comptroller Brad Lander (a longtime DSA member) disavowed the rally lapucelle Oct 2023 #63

Tom Watson (aka "the unknown guy", so-named by someone who didn't know who he is) lapucelle Oct 2023 #66

"Yup. I mean they're celebrating a far right theological paramilitary group in the name of Cha Oct 2023 #87

Once again, "the unknown guy". lapucelle Oct 2023 #68

+1 betsuni Oct 2023 #79

Freaking Ghoulish Assholes. Cha Oct 2023 #90

Glad to see this garbage only got 8 recs. redqueen Oct 2023 #72

11 now after mine BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #103

Seems like a fun game. What do we expect from those that support this: Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2023 #77

So I guess it would be more fair if Hamas was better at killing Jews? tritsofme Oct 2023 #98

This didn't all happen in a vacuum. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2023 #100

You forgot to include the link to the Statista graphic. lapucelle Oct 2023 #101

Why post such a DU divisive OP? PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #93

I think the pro-terrorism rally DSA hosted yesterday was much more divisive tritsofme Oct 2023 #99

The DSA rally is inexcusable. Wonder what specific individuals organized PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #102

I feel it is incumbent upon members to denounce the event. tritsofme Oct 2023 #104

Unfortunately, not as simple as that. PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #107

Actually, it is. Denouncing a pro-terrorist rally should be very easy. tritsofme Oct 2023 #108

Then that is all that needs to be said. The problem is the DSA organization has made some troubling JohnSJ Oct 2023 #112