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maxsolomon

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13. nothing is cut and dried/right v wrong in this world

Thu Oct 12, 2023, 03:16 PM

Oct 2023

not even ukraine.

russia/putin really does see the 2014 ukraine revolution as a coup that overthrew a legitimate, democratically-elected govt and oppresses the russian-speakers of east ukraine. they really do see the 1954 "gift" of crimea to the ukraine SSR as a historical error.

i disagree because i know the facts of yanukovitch, but not everyone does, even here at DU, and certainly not on RW forums.

no one can agree any longer - facts are fungible, consensus is impossible. maybe it's always been this way, and we just fooled ourselves that it could ever really change.

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I honestly really don't know what to say at all about the situation in Israel and Gaza. [View all] Tommy Carcetti Oct 2023 OP

Yes. MontanaMama Oct 2023 #1

Yep. Lunabell Oct 2023 #2

maybe what we need to ask ourselves is GenXer47 Oct 2023 #3

++++ Tetrachloride Oct 2023 #5

I'd imagine it's because Israel is our closest ally. England a close second. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #6

"The places in Africa don't seem to want to be Ally's or even try to be. Just a thought." obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #12

Wow. Mosby Oct 2023 #15

The way forward needs civilians Tetrachloride Oct 2023 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author raccoon Oct 2023 #7

but there is someone to blame MadameButterfly Oct 2023 #8

Brings back memory of an old term, "LIHOP" Dave says Oct 2023 #17

except there's a basis for my comments MadameButterfly Oct 2023 #23

A friend told me that for my own mental health sake ... LenaBaby61 Oct 2023 #9

It's been a rough week. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2023 #10

Hang in there okay? LenaBaby61 Oct 2023 #21

Good post, Tommy obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #11

nothing is cut and dried/right v wrong in this world maxsolomon Oct 2023 #13

Putin's delusions aside, the solution to the war in Ukraine is so incredible simple. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2023 #16

you're right; the solution is simple in ukraine. but it won't happen. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #19

This is close to how I feel. yardwork Oct 2023 #14

"Everybody's suffering matters" - yes Dave says Oct 2023 #18

"dating back years to decades" progressoid Oct 2023 #20

Go to the source dwayneb Oct 2023 #22