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Scottie Mom

(5,832 posts)
23. Not really.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 05:20 PM
Oct 2023

It is not unheard of for a judge to issue a sua sponte order. In this case, the Judge basically told Trump that Jack Smith did not have to do a thing, that she alone could consider his conduct and set a hearing on the issue of a violation of the gag order. Of course, he can file a motion also.

Normally a judge has to wait for a motion to be before the court, but there are times when they can move because of facts and circumstances. One of the circumstances is "exigent circumstances." This judge on making the gag order did not rely on the issue of poisoning the jury -- she relied on the issue of violence -- this is an 'exigent" circumstance. Here. she announced that she would do something because of possible violence that could be triggered by Trump's statements.

When I was a baby attorney, a much older and wiser attorney explained the issue of "exigent" circumstances -- "The house is on fire and there is no waiting to call the fire department."

The fancy legal term is "exigent", but it's basically an emergency and a need to move quickly. While this judge announced it would be in her order, that is not really required if there is an emergency. Federal judges are pretty powerful.

There are other times when the court will rule sua sponte -- for instance when the court has no jurisdiction to hear a matter. An example of this would be a bankruptcy filed in a federal civil court. (Assuming the Clerk did not see this at the filing window.)

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The fat man's just itching to get on his guilded toilet and rage tweet Blue Owl Oct 2023 #1
I for one SpamWyzer Oct 2023 #5
As long as I don't have to listen to himm "sing." soldierant Oct 2023 #30
Here come the Judge! ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2023 #2
Orange Foolius! mahina Oct 2023 #7
Ah, good old Laugh-In. This one's a tad dated, but still pretty funny: TheRickles Oct 2023 #13
Thank you. niyad Oct 2023 #18
Loved that show. At the time it was pretty edgey, with occasional censorship. But funny. EarnestPutz Oct 2023 #24
+1. iluvtennis Oct 2023 #16
Where can I find the text of the order? sboatcar Oct 2023 #3
Not sure it if is out yet...will look. EOM Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #4
According to the docket, the Main Document is not linked there, only from PACER, which ancianita Oct 2023 #15
IMO...the media will have it immediately and race to release it. EOM Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #20
Perhaps. We'll see. ancianita Oct 2023 #21
Glad to see the court include that in the order gratuitous Oct 2023 #6
Cheveux, not chevaux, though cutting the horse in quarters did sound intriguing! RobertDevereaux Oct 2023 #9
Yeah, in the past EndlessWire Oct 2023 #8
48 hours Randomthought Oct 2023 #10
Have MSNBC on and listening for updates re the Gag Order Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #11
thanks for the explination. my head hurts now . please o please AllaN01Bear Oct 2023 #12
The order will be appealed Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #14
Asking from ignorance here... GopherGal Oct 2023 #17
Having practiced law for a very long time, I say the following: Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #19
I read the definition of "sua sponte" that you posted. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #22
Not really. Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #23
I get it now! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #25
You are very, very welcome! Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #27
It's a start but... qwlauren35 Oct 2023 #26
IMO, we will see. Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #28
agree republianmushroom Oct 2023 #29
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