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DemocraticPatriot

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Sun Nov 12, 2023, 12:00 AM Nov 2023

UNPRECIDENTED: So what happens if TRUMP DIES, 2 or 3 days before [View all]

Last edited Sun Nov 12, 2023, 11:25 PM - Edit history (2)

the 2024 presidential election ???

too late for any state to rewrite their ballots...

The US Constitution never considered such a situation..... and the VP candidate would not automatically become the 'president-elect', since the winner of the election (if the GQP actually won it) would have not yet been President anyway...

Yes, in the electoral college, we vote for "electors"----

Those such Repubican electors woud be elected to vote for a 'dead man' in that instance.....
presumably the RNC would align behind another candidate, in that instance.....

Sounds like a recipe for total chaos.... and a lot of lawsuits...



I am asking for the opinions of political and legal experts with this post...
what do you suppose would happen in such a situation ?

(and it IS within the realm of possibility,
that President Joe Biden would WIN against a dead man---
but just throwing this out there.....)

************EDIT:

THANKS to "Ecstatic" who delivered this link, detailing what happens if a major candidate dies, anytime from just before the primaries, through to inauguration day--- a good read, I recommend it:
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what-happens-if-a-presidential-candidate-cannot-take-office-due-to-death-or-incapacitation-before-january-2025/

In my "3 days before the General Election" scenario, it appears that the RNC would hold an emergency meeting to attempt to select another nominee--- such replacement nominee requiring a majority vote of the RNC. Presuming they made a selection, there would be a publicity blitz, but it would be far too late for the states to change the names of candidates on printed ballots... although I suppose it could be done on electronic voting machines.

Whether the RNC did or did not select a new nominee prior to the election, all votes for Trump electors would still be valid, and the electoral college would meet and vote as usual-- but the vast majority of the Trump electors free to vote for another candidate.

(Whether they would be obliged to vote for the selection of the Republican National Committee would probably depend on individual state laws--- but being the lemming that they are, I suspect almost all of the Republican electors would do so.)

However, as to the General Election itself, with Democratic voters predisposed to vote early, but Republican voters inclined to wait for election day, I suspect many Trump cultists would be demoralized, and not turn out to vote for a dead man, giving President Biden an edge in the results.

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I wake up drunk in a field Kennah Nov 2023 #1
I am there with you, amigo.. DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #2
We better get a designated driver. Otherwise, we're walking. Kennah Nov 2023 #48
If I woke up in a field, I'd be walking anyway--- DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #70
I party for a week. Ocelot II Nov 2023 #3
You and MANY more!!! elleng Nov 2023 #4
We were estatic bdamomma Nov 2023 #66
The universe .... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #5
YES, we would all drink too much and celebrate, but DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #6
The electoral college isn't likely to vote for a dead guy, Ocelot II Nov 2023 #8
In this situation, who knows... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #11
This would be a constitutional crisis. We cannot be leaderless. We re-vote, I guess. CTyankee Nov 2023 #57
No re-vote. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2023 #65
Reagan proved otherwise, from the neck up Kennah Nov 2023 #49
Therein probably lies the answer Kennah Nov 2023 #50
Votes for Trump would still be valid, since we don't really vote for the candidates themselves, DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #71
What a question. Nowhere in the Constitution is that covered... brush Nov 2023 #53
Not really unbelievable that this would not be covered Zeitghost Nov 2023 #67
We would not be unpresidented... though the situation would be .... NCIndie Nov 2023 #7
Heh. "Touche" DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #9
Sorry. It's my nature. NCIndie Nov 2023 #13
Anger & the desire for revenge. nt Dulcinea Nov 2023 #40
? NCIndie Nov 2023 #44
HEH! Thanks for the spellcheck.... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #33
True, we vote for electors, but the POTUS and VP are chosen together. eppur_se_muova Nov 2023 #10
But the vice president is not in the line of succession, DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #12
From the Twelfth Amendment: eppur_se_muova Nov 2023 #16
Ok, then I stand corrected.... perhaps.... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #17
Apparently, it would not be "acting". nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2023 #18
If its any consolation, consider this. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #28
Don't tease me like that! Diamond_Dog Nov 2023 #14
TFG is obviously not very healthy.... so this question is valid DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #15
He would still likely appear on the ballot. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #19
We rejoice? bif Nov 2023 #20
I'm just going to throw this into the mix: it doesn't matter because fierywoman Nov 2023 #21
Let me recommend a book.... brooklynite Nov 2023 #22
Hope I'm not bothered by ants while I'm dead drunk in a field somewhere. Dios Mio Nov 2023 #23
Depends if those 10,000,000+ dead people vote Democrat KS Toronado Nov 2023 #24
It will become a new national holiday! liberalla Nov 2023 #25
If America takes leave of its senses and his corpse wins Warpy Nov 2023 #26
You mean after the national week of celebration? moniss Nov 2023 #27
The 'Q' people will keep him alive... rubbersole Nov 2023 #29
And he would be celebrating 'tea time' with John F. Kennedy Jr. ! DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #73
Please let that happen Blue Owl Nov 2023 #30
Am I the only one who's gonna Google this shit? ; ) BaronChocula Nov 2023 #31
Thank you. Nice work... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #32
In this day and age... BaronChocula Nov 2023 #34
That's if there's enough time to fill the vacancy, like let's say September Polybius Nov 2023 #46
Other articles mention BaronChocula Nov 2023 #56
The election can't be moved Polybius Nov 2023 #59
All Article II says is that BaronChocula Nov 2023 #60
I mean Election Day itself Polybius Nov 2023 #63
I'm not trying to be a smartypants here BaronChocula Nov 2023 #64
We bury him Tickle Nov 2023 #35
Don't forget the stake in the heart first... tavernier Nov 2023 #36
You are so right Tickle Nov 2023 #37
I think that the Republicans would demand a four year Weekend At Bernies. Chainfire Nov 2023 #38
We celebrate. No matter when he dies. Autumn Nov 2023 #39
I won't celebrate; I don't believe in that. tavernier Nov 2023 #41
I'll celebrate enough for several people. Autumn Nov 2023 #42
I'll pee enough for several people. tavernier Nov 2023 #43
Nation-wide street dance. (nt) Paladin Nov 2023 #45
Better yet, what happens if someone is elected President and then dies? Polybius Nov 2023 #47
A Tucker Carlson presidency Ponietz Nov 2023 #52
Depends on the timing ecstatic Nov 2023 #51
THANKS! That certainly gave answers to all possible relative questions! DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #68
I'll have to start going to church again. Turbineguy Nov 2023 #54
Somehow, I think the U.S. Extreme Court would get involved in the election. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2023 #55
I still vote for Joe RainCaster Nov 2023 #58
Might depend on the political affilation of the medical team Attilatheblond Nov 2023 #61
I still wouldn't vote for him...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2023 #62
A slightly more likely Constitutional nightmare is... LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #69
That's a nice little question for the courts, I would imagine. Is there an emergency provision for US Supreme Court CTyankee Nov 2023 #74
Millions of people will have voted by then Retrograde Nov 2023 #72
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