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TexasDem69

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5. Hamas is the elected ruling party of Gaza

Mon Nov 20, 2023, 08:29 PM

Nov 2023

Hamas’ stated position is the elimination of Israel. A little context is important.

And you should change your post to highlight that this is an opinion piece, not news.

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Israel has long wanted Palestinians out of Gaza - my father saw it firsthand (Guardian) [View all] David__77 Nov 2023 OP

happy to be the 1st rec WarGamer Nov 2023 #1

Some people, especially Israel's right wing, wouldn't mind for sure. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2023 #2

I agree completely. David__77 Nov 2023 #3

Then vs Now Thinker Cats Nov 2023 #4

Simpler time enid602 Nov 2023 #105

The US is also not a monolith, but for 4 years...... jaxexpat Nov 2023 #43

True but here's the problem. AloeVera Nov 2023 #68

Hamas is the elected ruling party of Gaza TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #5

But your comment is irrelevant to the OP WarGamer Nov 2023 #6

The large majority were not of voting age the last time there were elections. Close to a majority weren't even born! David__77 Nov 2023 #7

The point is that Hamas is the elected ruling party TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #8

To assume this is true for a moment: what's your point? David__77 Nov 2023 #10

The point is clear TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #11

I just wondered if you cared to state it clearly rather than by implication. David__77 Nov 2023 #15

The point is that support for Hamas makes you a legitimate military target. Lucky Luciano Nov 2023 #70

My understanding is that combatants, specifically, are legitimate military targets. David__77 Nov 2023 #72

Can you verify that... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #21

From the Jerusalem Post TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #23

Well, obviously, those 2 polls... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #29

I don't know enough either TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #30

It could be video of anything... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #36

Please tell me you aren't claiming TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #47

There have been multiple verifications... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #55

Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank strongly support Hamas, October 7 attack Cha Nov 2023 #62

You are trying to make it black & white womanofthehills Nov 2023 #96

Your post #7 and the article don't agree. yagotme Nov 2023 #77

Most of the people who were first generation refugees are dead. David__77 Nov 2023 #79

Increase is approx. 6x. If original refugees are dead, that's a HECK of a birthrate, right there... nt yagotme Nov 2023 #80

Yes, there has been population growth. David__77 Nov 2023 #82

Population growth at a factor of 6x. With a high death rate? yagotme Nov 2023 #83

CSIS link related to this: David__77 Nov 2023 #86

"Estimates." Again, I have suspicions. yagotme Nov 2023 #101

True womanofthehills Nov 2023 #97

I think as people get older, they may often lose perspective of how quickly the world changes. David__77 Nov 2023 #98

It has been 75 years. Where do you think they are? whopis01 Nov 2023 #90

Of course, it also ignores the nearly equal number of Jews who fled or were expelled from Arab countries tritsofme Nov 2023 #92

I don't quite see how that follows what I said whopis01 Nov 2023 #93

Logic. yagotme Nov 2023 #102

You appear to be questioning points I did not make whopis01 Nov 2023 #107

Your post: yagotme Nov 2023 #108

It is not irrelevant TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #9

So you're advocating for the entire population to be treated as enemy combatants? WarGamer Nov 2023 #12

Wow TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #13

I would argue that the way the war is being waged... WarGamer Nov 2023 #19

So..... Red Mountain Nov 2023 #24

I would hope that people smarter than I would figure it out. WarGamer Nov 2023 #31

Hamas' murderers are literally TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #50

wait for them to leave? WarGamer Nov 2023 #51

And what if they don't leave? TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #54

How many people are you willing to see Israel kill? Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #56

Good deflection TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #61

You are projecting to avoid answering the question. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #64

Let's try reversing this sentence, and see what happens: yagotme Nov 2023 #78

In the aftermath of WWII, Mr. Evil Nov 2023 #53

And Israel was the "new country" that should not have been founded? elias7 Nov 2023 #88

If Israel is so good at limiting civilian deaths womanofthehills Nov 2023 #99

Yes, because, if Israel wanted to, they could actually carpet-bomb Gaza. yagotme Nov 2023 #103

Do you think they are? Red Mountain Nov 2023 #22

No, I don't... WarGamer Nov 2023 #25

I don't think you understand the difference TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #32

they don't live underground 24/7/365... WarGamer Nov 2023 #34

How is that a solution that protects Israel? TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #37

Not apples to apples Red Mountain Nov 2023 #33

The point I was making... is that the IDF has the capability to strike individual fighters. WarGamer Nov 2023 #35

What are "Hamas' citizens"? David__77 Nov 2023 #17

Good catch. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #38

The truth is a lot different than what you think. patphil Nov 2023 #16

Hamas won the vote TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #18

17 years ago! And then they drove the opposition party out of Gaza. patphil Nov 2023 #69

It was actually Fatah who feared Hamas would also beat them in the West Bank, as well as Gaza tritsofme Nov 2023 #91

It's actually the opposite Zeitghost Nov 2023 #100

I might add that Trump was the elected leader of the United States and thus represents all of us? LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #42

Elimination enid602 Nov 2023 #59

You might want to re-think this phrase: yagotme Nov 2023 #104

What happens if no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #14

That's a lot of hypotheticals in one post Red Mountain Nov 2023 #26

This separate and apart from the October 7 attack by Hamas. no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #41

Apparently, the WB settlers has grander ideas. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #27

Please tell me that's a fringe case redqueen Nov 2023 #45

This interview is with Daniella Weiss, Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #63

Here's what Hamas wants, no "secrets" about it TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #28

K&R Goddessartist Nov 2023 #20

and many of us have long been sick of the entire dispute Skittles Nov 2023 #39

I don't think Hamas' murders are about religion TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #52

Rodney King had it right Skittles Nov 2023 #75

Have you ever made an OP that only was negative about Hamas? NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #40

Targeted attack of a long time DUer much? The_Casual_Observer Nov 2023 #67

A question NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #71

Poor form n/t leftstreet Nov 2023 #73

Questioning a total one-sided poster? NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #74

Where in DU's TOS does it say "both siderism please?" leftstreet Nov 2023 #76

I'll say what the hell I want. NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #81

Oh, okay n/t leftstreet Nov 2023 #84

The UN started something in 1947 that wasn't ever going to work out. Aussie105 Nov 2023 #44

The Arabs didn't say "Go away!" Autumn_Angler Nov 2023 #57

Seems like the Palestinians would like a bunch of Palestinians out of Palestine. NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #46

Yes, and I don't think the bombs are going to help them. David__77 Nov 2023 #48

Total non-sequitor NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #49

You're only going to get evasion from that poster. n/t Autumn_Angler Nov 2023 #58

I know. NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #60

A factual account delivered by a legit source. Nuff said The_Casual_Observer Nov 2023 #65

All Fall Down Redux moniss Nov 2023 #66

There is no good guy - bad guy in this war. Aussie105 Nov 2023 #85

One thing about the tactic of keeping the Palestinian people in poverty to get rid of them. Uncle Joe Nov 2023 #87

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2023 #89

Truth comes out LiberaBlueDem Nov 2023 #94

In the short term, the fight is against resumption of the bombardment. David__77 Nov 2023 #95

This is an opinion piece TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #106