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haele

(12,690 posts)
13. It works as well as it did for the leaders of ISIL/Daesh, ect.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:37 PM
Dec 2023

What Hamas has done is nothing new in terms terrorist autocrats. Concurrent rape and murder were done in Ukraine, Myanmar, El Salvador, Chile, the old Soviet Union, Spain and Portugal during the Napoleonic Wars, all over Colonial Africa by several different European nations, France during the 14th/15th century Hundred Years wars and has been reported happening far back in history. Armies did it when they sacked citied and towns. Mercenary and slaver gangs raped and murdered when they would sweep through areas to pacify the locals as they looted and kidnapped what they could. The only difference between back then and now is the real-time viewership through Social Media. Now most civilized people can't pretend it doesn't happen, like they did in all the other countries I mentioned, because Hamas did it out in the open against a country with close ties to the US.

Hamas didn't invent what they did on October 7th. Their leadership knew full well what the outcome would be, and yes. It's worked out well for them. They get to cause chaos in the Western World, get more street cred amongst the Arab Hegemony groups as well as other anti-West regimes, and they gave hard-right non-Islamists a reason to ramp up lesser forms of atrocities against them to juice up the marketing of their particular criminal brand and recruiting. Its working out very well for the leadership of Hamas, and anyone who benefits politically from the escalation of conflict they're provoking.

I'm not saying don't go after Hamas. What I'm saying is understand why they did what they did. And don't give them the messy "kill them all and let God sort them out" recruiting plan they're counting on getting, or we all sit by and let Israel become the monster it is fighting. There are ways to destroy a snake, but starting from the tail doesn't work.

Haele

That picture destroys my heart. cayugafalls Dec 2023 #1
General Discussion SYGDeb Dec 2023 #4
This is intentional starvation, not just war. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #10
Please, do not in any way confuse my empathy for anything other than empathy. cayugafalls Dec 2023 #14
Please accept my apology. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #18
Thank you. cayugafalls Dec 2023 #21
I just viewed a clip from Al Jazeera in which Gazans were accusing Hamas of stealing and hoarding humanitarian aid. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #2
Madaboutharry SYGDeb Dec 2023 #5
They are starving because Hamas wants them to starve. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #6
But instead Arab leaders are busy condemning Israel....not one of them has condemned Hamas. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #9
No, there is not enough food for 2.3 million people being delivered due to Israel restrictions. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #11
These terrorists will stop at nothing. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #8
Someone should let Hamas know. They could stop this war TODAY if they wanted to. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #3
Hamas' leadership goal is power and "respect" in the Arab world. haele Dec 2023 #7
Is it working? They certainly have "won the hearts" of many here * Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #12
It works as well as it did for the leaders of ISIL/Daesh, ect. haele Dec 2023 #13
They have not been well served by Hamas, their elected government. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #15
There have been NO recent elections. WarGamer Dec 2023 #17
Talk to Hamas about that too. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #19
Which is why one can not say "But the Palestinians voted for Hamas" WarGamer Dec 2023 #20
Some (not I) might comment, starvation is cheaper than bullets, 2000lb JDAM's and missiles. WarGamer Dec 2023 #16
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