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In reply to the discussion: We must help Ukraine [View all]

WarGamer

(17,702 posts)
9. I'll go line by line.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:24 PM
Feb 2024

1) Those nations are ALL NATO member States except Moldova. I can see Moldova becoming a Putin puppet State politically, not militarily, like Belarus.

2) Saying that Putin will attack the Baltic States is like saying he'll attack Paris.

Even the FM of Estonia says they have 3-4 years before Russia tests NATO. I don't think it'd be that soon, if at all.

3) US Intel assessments say that the war will likely end in negotiation. Ukraine is losing. Ever since the failed counteroffensive, they're losing. Just this week they withdrew from Avdiivka a major UAF fortress city.

Ukraine has run out of men. The average age of soldiers at the front is like 45... it's politically dynamite to draft the 20 year olds.

Outmanned, outgunned, low on ammo and struggling on the battlefield... the only question left is how long Ukraine wants to keep on fighting. I'm not Ukrainian... I support their right to fight. It's their family members, not mine. And they need more aid...

4) The US has dumped in nearly 80 billion dollars to Ukraine, not only for arms but to prop up the economy. The EU has given approx the same amount.

5) And the oligarchs in Russia are not thrilled about international sanctions, they'll be quite happy when this is all over.

Here's MY opinion.

When this thing comes to an end... NATO must put Ukraine on a fast track for membership. NATO needs to stop acting like the US can carry the vast majority of the costs and burden of foreign wars. NATO member states need to establish powerful standing armies to keep the Russians in check.

The US is a member of NATO... not 95% of NATO.

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We must help Ukraine [View all] angrychair Feb 2024 OP
Right there with you. 2naSalit Feb 2024 #1
Me too angrychair Feb 2024 #4
Absolutely!!! nt Raine Feb 2024 #2
Totally agree / K&R Stinky The Clown Feb 2024 #3
We have to bdamomma Feb 2024 #5
No evidence that a Ukraine loss, meaning negotiation... WarGamer Feb 2024 #6
You are dreaming. EndlessWire Feb 2024 #8
I'll go line by line. WarGamer Feb 2024 #9
If by "we" you mean Congress, I have a feeling DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 2024 #7
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