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In reply to the discussion: We may be in trouble [View all]OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)with their "fuck you if you tell me to 'vote blue no matter who' at this point. I'm not voting in national elections at all any more." They have no reply to the fact that Trump will be a nightmare for both domestic (something they don't seem to care about any more) as well as foreign policy (their sole focus at this time). I might add that these are progressives from 40 to 70 with various racial and ethnic identities. This was my core group of online friends since the early 2000s. Then the Hillary-Bernie kerfuffle happened and there was a continued divergence to the point we now find ourselves. Certainly the younger generation who are engaged (albeit maybe not getting info from the most reliable sources) are anti-Biden due to him not completely breaking with Israel.
But my opinion after observing for years is that there is a nihilistic contingent on the left who look for reasons to try to destroy Democrats. I think they hate people who "should" be on their side 100% because we share a similar worldview more than the right-wingers who don't remotely have the same worldview. It used to be primarily white people who expressed this left-wing nihilism. Now the nihilism is more diverse, though I do think there are various levels of privilege involved in these groups.
It's hard for me to completely understand how members of the LGBTQ+ community or Muslims or non-Russian immigrants and any number of other groups targeted for destruction by MAGA don't recognize the very direct danger they are in with a Trump presidency. It's not speculation. Maybe they don't care about their own safety for any number of reasons but are they truly considering the millions of others who are more vulnerable than they may be who will be destroyed? That's both here and abroad.
To me it just feels like the anger after the 2016 primaries has snowballed into irrationality for some. Plenty of reasons why we all get frustrated and angry with the Democratic Party but, to me, there's no comparison to what we all face with MAGA.
ETA: This is strictly my experience and observations. Others no doubt have very different impressions and experiences.