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OneGrassRoot

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110. Great points...

Tue Mar 12, 2024, 04:52 PM

Mar 12

And I observe the same. It’s very black-and-white thinking which is understandable in youth; maturity usually allows for complexities. Not so in this certain group of people.

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We may be in trouble [View all] Metaphorical Mar 12 OP

Ask them if they think Trump would be any better for the Palestinians, Ocelot II Mar 12 #1

Netanyahu wants Trump to be POTUS. nt PufPuf23 Mar 12 #2

Yep, that's the whole thing in a nutshell Walleye Mar 12 #28

Putin also wants Trump for POTUS. The Wizard Mar 12 #32

Except that Whiny was offended because Netanyahu congratulated Biden after he won question everything Mar 12 #72

Won't matter. Mister Ed Mar 12 #6

Perception is hard to dislodge once rooted in people's minds. Lonestarblue Mar 12 #41

I believe that anything all of us and the media can easily see is seen by Biden's team karynnj Mar 12 #53

And made Jerusalem the capital of Israel. NT. anamnua Mar 12 #10

False. former9thward Mar 12 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author B.See Mar 12 #13

Trump has already made a statement on it. Finish the 'problem' B.See Mar 12 #14

There are a lot of people who think if things hit rock bottom, everything will collapse and then NYC Liberal Mar 12 #89

They know Shittler is a Nazi so they can hold out hope he will TheKentuckian Mar 12 #113

Tell them warmonger Netanyahu is bombing Gaza and Biden is trying for a ceasefire and hostage release... brush Mar 12 #3

They know that the US is sending the weapons that are bombing the Palestinians. Big Blue Marble Mar 12 #4

It'll get worst under trump, along with deportation camps for protesters. brush Mar 12 #5

There are very very few alternate earths where the US does not continue BootinUp Mar 12 #12

it goes pretty far in this territory stopdiggin Mar 12 #16

Help is on the way. usonian Mar 12 #7

bernie better get out there and WORK for joe. mopinko Mar 12 #23

ive yet to figure out his appeal.... samnsara Mar 12 #34

Same here. I still don't get it. calimary Mar 12 #126

quit the damn Bernie bashing. he's already been out there supporting Biden NoRethugFriends Mar 12 #60

this NoSheep Mar 12 #66

he made, iirc, 1 appearance for hillary. mopinko Mar 12 #70

As a Vermonter, I KNOW he was out of state campaigning where the Clinton campaign wanted him karynnj Mar 12 #86

Not true scipan Mar 12 #91

Hillary joined Obama on the campaign trail for their first big rally together at the end of June. betsuni Mar 12 #103

Both of those things are false Cuthbert Allgood Mar 12 #106

It was too late DLCWIdem Mar 12 #111

That's a nice moving of the goal posts from what I responded to. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 13 #156

Oh? edisdead Mar 12 #83

Same. Oopsie Daisy Mar 12 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Mar 12 #149

I wonder how progressive Biden's agenda would be if it weren't for Bernie Sanders and a few others... NoSheep Mar 12 #65

Let's put Biden's record up against Sanders' and see. yardwork Mar 12 #69

I wonder what people imagine was the big huge fundamental change between what Biden ran betsuni Mar 12 #75

very helpful, thanks. I think we need a sticky "fast response" thread ecstatic Mar 12 #138

One more thing that might bring out the hesitant: Trump's comment a week ago that he would "finish the problem." Scrivener7 Mar 12 #141

Thanks, unfortunately the list grows longer as people remind me of more skulduggery. usonian Mar 12 #143

Biden is doing a lot better than the loser with young voters BootinUp Mar 12 #8

K and R (no text) Stuart G Mar 12 #9

Early on, try to argue that Trump is mentally ill. Urge them "NOT TO VOTE AT ALL" Stuart G Mar 12 #11

these aren't trump voters so it wouldn't matter. They might vote 3rd party. But, they won't vote for trump mucifer Mar 12 #29

They are though. By default. edisdead Mar 12 #84

punish Biden, and punish your country (and in all likelihood Gaza as well) stopdiggin Mar 12 #15

Dismissive answers wont help us in November lostnfound Mar 12 #27

Neither will dismissive young voters. NT tazkcmo Mar 12 #56

Then we better convince old voters to vote for Biden. Mariana Mar 12 #129

these people are not interested in dialogue stopdiggin Mar 12 #81

Let's put our thoughts together to hope Israelis dump Bibi. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 12 #17

Netanyahu is just the symptom AloeVera Mar 12 #98

Like any strong man he has Israelis in a chokehold. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 12 #102

Arabs built those sentiments. Oddly enough, folks TheKentuckian Mar 12 #114

Mirror image but orders of magnitude worse. AloeVera Mar 12 #124

I remember the same problem with Bernie voters mchill Mar 12 #18

Especially ironic since Joe got the Senate to vote in Obamacare. yardwork Mar 12 #48

But it was repeated over and over that "incrementalism" and "compromise" were horrible evil sins betsuni Mar 12 #87

Magical thinking is a drug. yardwork Mar 12 #93

The overwhelming majority of Bernie supporters voted for Clinton and for Biden. Mariana Mar 12 #130

I recommend reply no. 7 plus an emphasis on correcting the GoodRaisin Mar 12 #19

Social media is one of the biggest misnomers ever on planet earth.. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 12 #20

No, it might be only your kids... Think. Again. Mar 12 #21

No. It's a very serious thing with a LOT of younger people. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #24

I agree that a lot of people, INFORMED people... Think. Again. Mar 12 #25

I'm not implying anything. As I said, I hope they are rational when voting time comes. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #36

Very few are capable of voting for someone they call TheKentuckian Mar 12 #115

I doubt being called "traitors" on a Democratic Party focussed website... Think. Again. Mar 12 #116

They aren't Democrats supporting the Democratic Party, why would they care? betsuni Mar 12 #117

I agree and I hear similar things from young voters. Pretending it doesn't matter doesn't make it go away. Nt lostnfound Mar 12 #26

And man. People in this thread are turning themselves inside out pretending it doesn't matter. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #136

Pray, tell, and just WHAT does the kGOPb want to do with Muslims and Palestinians? Baltimike Mar 12 #22

An alt-left, pro-Hamas grandmother, eh? Torchlight Mar 12 #30

Again I'll say, what's the point of all those AP classes and fancy expensive educations? betsuni Mar 12 #31

I think it's mostly a fad and social thing to meet people BannonsLiver Mar 12 #51

You don't know any of these "kids," do you? Because that post is just ignorant. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #58

I bet I'm closer to their age than most people here. BannonsLiver Mar 12 #68

Which has nothing to do with the question. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #123

PS. Sensible edit. Wouldn't want people knowing you called another DUer "sugar tits." Scrivener7 Mar 13 #154

Like how recycled '60s anti-establishment revolution became all the rage in 2016. betsuni Mar 12 #77

The ones I know are sincere and well informed. Their concern over the deaths of Scrivener7 Mar 12 #121

"Genocide Joe" "uncommitted" is not sincere or well-informed. betsuni Mar 12 #128

And many are not saying either of those things. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #132

Facts. qwlauren35 Mar 12 #144

To fill their heads with barely warmed over Soviet era propaganda TheKentuckian Mar 12 #118

Really? Education is filling their heads with Soviet era propaganda? What the fuck is happening in this thread? Scrivener7 Mar 12 #134

The majority of old people reliably vote Republican. Mariana Mar 12 #131

Right? This thread has gone bonkers. Apparently, we're anti education now. Shaking my damn head. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #135

We are not the ones who are anti education. And it is for good reason that we are not. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #133

"We"? Who. I said "fancy expensive education." How is that "anti-education"? Is all education fancy betsuni Mar 13 #150

*sigh* Scrivener7 Mar 13 #153

they are too green to know the consequences to their actions. samnsara Mar 12 #33

Canada does not permit just anyone to relocate there MichMan Mar 12 #90

I'm confused. Do we want the to vote or are they too stupid to vote? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 12 #107

maybe it's time to curb the influence of alt left Grandma MistakenLamb Mar 12 #35

China Habitation Mar 12 #37

My son is the same JustBeGood Mar 12 #38

I know a grown-up who is exceedingly well informed who whines, "booo-hoo-no one represents my interests.... lindysalsagal Mar 12 #39

I know quite a few grown-ups who are pretty vicious at this point... OneGrassRoot Mar 12 #55

The belief that if you don't think exactly as they do you're not only wrong but immoral, corrupt, and evil. betsuni Mar 12 #109

Great points... OneGrassRoot Mar 12 #110

Black-and-white literal thinking, poor reading/listening/critical thinking skills, going right to personal insults betsuni Mar 12 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Mar 12 #139

I have said it several times.. DemocratInPa Mar 12 #40

I'm working hard on my younger relatives right now. We've gotten to where they promise THEY Scrivener7 Mar 12 #57

So they're voting for Trump? intheflow Mar 12 #42

This was Putin's goal in helping Hamas stage a raid. Irish_Dem Mar 12 #43

+1. The "Genocide Joe" propaganda immediately following Oct. 7 was extraordinary dalton99a Mar 12 #78

Yes it was obviously well planned and executed Irish_Dem Mar 12 #95

They'll come around by the election budkin Mar 12 #44

I think we need to scare them into voting for Biden. honest.abe Mar 12 #45

They are rational people. If we take your approach we'll make headway. If on the other hand, we take the advice of Scrivener7 Mar 12 #137

The day that tRUMP gets full control, i mean full control, bluestarone Mar 12 #46

This is why I think you can make a strong case Biden is the underdog in November. All Mixed Up Mar 12 #47

I'm seeing the same, and it reminds me of 2016. yardwork Mar 12 #49

It's absolutely similar to 2016. All Mixed Up Mar 12 #54

We can't stop sending money to Israel. That isn't going to happen. yardwork Mar 12 #61

Probably not. But Biden is at risk of losing by sending money unconditionally. All Mixed Up Mar 12 #62

Biden is not "sending money unconditionally." yardwork Mar 12 #64

What parameters has Biden set up in his $14 billion request for aid? All Mixed Up Mar 12 #74

I googled that and found hundreds of answers. yardwork Mar 12 #92

So no parameters on the money. Okay. All Mixed Up Mar 12 #97

It does not follow. Torchlight Mar 12 #105

Bold summation of points we can't face. Basic LA Mar 12 #63

Nope. Despite propaganda attempting to equate the two, they're not equivalent. yardwork Mar 12 #67

I, and others, protested after we got back. Basic LA Mar 12 #71

I'm not downplaying any abominations. yardwork Mar 12 #73

I'm with you there. Basic LA Mar 12 #80

Democratic support has increased since the USSC struck down Roe. Qutzupalotl Mar 12 #85

None of what you say really refutes my claim. All Mixed Up Mar 12 #96

You are all over the place. Qutzupalotl Mar 12 #100

Let me help you out here... All Mixed Up Mar 12 #122

Classic DU Doom thread up and down BannonsLiver Mar 12 #50

Doom, doom, doom. Elessar Zappa Mar 12 #52

My 22 year old twins feel the same way about the killing of the Palestinian civilians in Gaza, but iluvtennis Mar 12 #59

are they in a state up for grabs? pstokely Mar 12 #142

They're in California. n/t iluvtennis Mar 12 #146

I've been saying that too. Bluesaph Mar 12 #76

I assume you asked them if they wanted Trump for President? Happy Hoosier Mar 12 #79

What's confusing me is seeing alt-right gun humper bros wearing shemaghs, growing domestic terrorist beards MenloParque Mar 12 #82

What's going on is propaganda and lazy thinking. yardwork Mar 12 #94

The Steve Bannon/Cenk Uygur-Justice Democrats dream of a populist left and right-wing alliance. betsuni Mar 12 #99

I know that there are other young people with similar thoughts & it's infuriating. themaguffin Mar 12 #101

Propaganda works all too well. Where can you suggest kids look IcyPeas Mar 12 #104

Trump would tell Netanyahu to push the Palestinians into the Sea Best_man23 Mar 12 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Mar 12 #112

Civilians getting caught in the crossfires of war TheKentuckian Mar 12 #125

IDK where you live but hopefully it's not a swing state. maxsolomon Mar 12 #119

I'd ask them if they plan to be one issue, low information voters all their lives and then littlemissmartypants Mar 12 #127

how many of these are in a state up for grabs? pstokely Mar 12 #140

are they in a state in play? pstokely Mar 12 #147

That's the problem with disinformation TexasDem69 Mar 12 #148

We are in the same trouble that Humphrey encountered in 1968. OutNow Mar 13 #151

No. betsuni Mar 13 #152

Tik Tok is controlled by China and China loves them some Trump uponit7771 Mar 13 #155