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RevBrotherThomas

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151. Yes & no...

Fri Mar 15, 2024, 11:15 AM

Mar 15

I think trump is a VERY stupid man. Cunning does not equate intelligence.

But like a drunk 12 year old running around the yard with with father's loaded .45, he is extremely dangerous. Only the bullets in his .45 are draconian executive orders & the launch codes.

I 100% agree that we dismiss him and his ilk at the peril of this country's continued existence.

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We must face reality. Trump is not a stupid man. Far from it. [View all] Irish_Dem Mar 14 OP

No. He's dumb. All Mixed Up Mar 14 #1

This man is very dangerous. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #7

No. He's dumb. All Mixed Up Mar 14 #10

"...people like you ..." dchill Mar 14 #76

Because I think Trump is dumb? All Mixed Up Mar 14 #102

I think Trump is dumb too...you mistake cunnine for brains. Demsrule86 Mar 15 #169

I just think his survival instinct is remarkable. dchill Mar 15 #170

I went to High School and college in Connecticut... Trump is an absolute pig. and Demsrule86 Mar 15 #178

Agree Woodwizard Mar 15 #150

No, they'd more likely blow the money and have to start over. Trump IS different. oldsoftie Mar 15 #181

"The problem with people like you." You know that poster well enough that you can tell them their problems? Scrivener7 Mar 17 #251

DOTURD IS AN IMBECILE AZ8theist Mar 14 #41

His cult members think he COL Mustard Mar 14 #80

Exactly: AZ8theist Mar 15 #116

I agree that he is stupid. ShazzieB Mar 14 #83

He most certainly is not an "imbecile." Irish_Dem Mar 15 #118

Cunning does not require intelligence NanaCat Mar 15 #146

Yeah, cuz most intelligent people suggest drinking bleach.... AZ8theist Mar 15 #163

Or sticking a light down into your lungs........... Bengus81 Mar 16 #223

Down your lungs??! Don't be ridiculous. AZ8theist Mar 16 #225

Dumb as a rock Ray Bruns Mar 14 #53

He is a rich child man who used money and lawyers to bully pwb Mar 14 #2

Someone stupid does not rise to his high position of power. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #4

He has people for everything. pwb Mar 14 #11

Michael Cohen says Trump is IN CHARGE. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #120

Despotic behavior with no shame, with advice from Putin may get one far at first MadameButterfly Mar 14 #15

Yeah! And George W. Bush was a regular Alfred Einstein! ECL213 Mar 15 #162

He's a narcissist with money. forgotmylogin Mar 15 #192

Every single one of the issues he is being charged on were caused by HIM. I JohnSJ Mar 14 #3

and it's about DAMN time he pays for it all a kennedy Mar 14 #5

ABSOLUTELY JohnSJ Mar 14 #16

And it looks like he's going to delay all the criminal cases until after the election 0rganism Mar 15 #148

Oh, he's stupid all right as he's a criminal defendant out on bail on multiple felony charges... brush Mar 14 #6

Someone stupid would have been in jail a long time ago. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #12

Let Me Fix That For You ProfessorGAC Mar 14 #25

Yep MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #28

This right here. nt Tree-Hugger Mar 14 #34

Liberty and Justice orangecrush Mar 14 #71

Bullseye. Thank you, ProfessorGAC. (nt) Paladin Mar 15 #157

That is not a fact hurple Mar 14 #73

It is a fact that most of us would be in jail right now Irish_Dem Mar 15 #121

Thank you for that badly-needed comment. (nt) Paladin Mar 15 #174

He's not smart, but he's shrewd. TSExile Mar 14 #8

Yes this is my point. He has an animal cunning. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #13

All he knows how to do is sic sycophants and attorneys on problems he himself has created. brush Mar 14 #17

That maybe true to an extent whopis01 Mar 14 #35

Absolutely. TSExile Mar 14 #49

Manipulating people into taking care of him is one of his talents. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #66

+1 Auggie Mar 15 #159

K&R spanone Mar 14 #9

the man has a thoroughly mediocre record stopdiggin Mar 14 #14

Becoming President of the United States is NOT mediocre. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #134

George W., Ronald Reagan stopdiggin Mar 15 #165

Being elected POTUS is no small feat. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #215

and yet I just listed a number of definatively mediocre intellects that did -(nt)- stopdiggin Mar 15 #219

Trump never won MFM008 Mar 15 #201

Of course a stupid man could have done this... appmanga Mar 14 #18

A stupid man would have been in jail by now. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #94

The people who have worked for him disagree Kaleva Mar 14 #19

+1. I'm convinced trump ran in 2016 strictly for publicity. He was surprised as anyone we gave Silent Type Mar 14 #23

Trump's transition efforts were sloppy Kaleva Mar 14 #30

I think so to but once he had the power Tree Lady Mar 14 #50

Totally agree. Silent Type Mar 14 #58

The people who worked for Trump were stupid enough to fall for the con job. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #103

Many didn't commit crimes and go to jail Kaleva Mar 14 #114

The point is that Trump is clever enough to get others to commit crimes for him. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #137

If he was smart, he wouldn't be doing that Kaleva Mar 15 #198

He is just smart enough to hire people who will tell him what he wants to hear. crim son Mar 14 #20

I agree with some of your points. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #104

He's stupid. Lots of Americans love outrageously confident bullshitters and he's the best, totally mindless. That's all. betsuni Mar 14 #21

And... MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #29

Daddy trump (Fred) had his lawyer Roy Cohn mentor widdle Donnie. magicarpet Mar 14 #40

Underestimating Trump is dangerous, because he is dangerous. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #119

He's stupid and dangerous. Up to the American people if they want stupid and dangerous. betsuni Mar 15 #171

He is a reactionary transactionalist with years cachukis Mar 14 #22

Trump is a typical sociopath in some ways. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #123

What did you expect? He's Roy Cohn's foster son. no_hypocrisy Mar 14 #24

Yes Trump was raised by two clever sociopaths. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #122

IN the Country of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is King ThoughtCriminal Mar 14 #26

Even smart people are stymied by him. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #92

Right, ruthless sociopath. elleng Mar 14 #27

Yes a very dangerous, ruthless sociopath who will stop at nothing to get what he wants. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #93

Right, his 'daddy' told him to do so. elleng Mar 14 #96

Yes the family dynamics point to his father being a sociopath too. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #98

along with roy cohn. elleng Mar 14 #99

Yes another sociopath. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #101

Trump has been doing this his entire life. He more than likely learned a simple lesson walkingman Mar 14 #31

Yes I know. I used to do jail evaluations for the courts. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #100

He learned these lessons from Roy Cohn too AdamGG Mar 15 #193

One must also consider Mr.Bill Mar 14 #32

It takes some intelligence to identify those easily manipulated. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #124

Anybody that aligns themselves with Trump Mr.Bill Mar 15 #172

Obviously all the Ivy League attorneys who work for Trump Irish_Dem Mar 15 #217

First off, i'll say he's a DUMB fucking bastard. bluestarone Mar 14 #33

He's not a deep thinker. limbicnuminousity Mar 14 #36

Yes he is not a deep thinker, in fact in many ways he is a LAZY thinker. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #125

He stays within his comfort zone. Which books are cachukis Mar 15 #144

Trump is the greasiest of pigs SomedayKindaLove Mar 14 #37

Trump, Bush I, Bush II, Clinton, Obama, Biden markodochartaigh Mar 14 #38

Our leaders are not just blank canvasses. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #126

Unfortunately America has a habit of being kind to its ex-leaders. Aussie105 Mar 14 #39

Good point. The US is far too kind to criminal presidents. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #210

He's brilliant! JoseBalow Mar 14 #42

He is a buffoon at times. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #211

He is a Mafia Con Man. LiberalFighter Mar 14 #43

Yes exactly. He is a mob boss who controls many in the US government. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #132

His success was largely happenstance anamnua Mar 14 #44

A life of crime is not all happenstance. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #130

I agree that he is street smart and intellectually stupid. LoisB Mar 14 #45

He's got money and no moral compass whatsoever - that's dangerous. NoMoreRepugs Mar 14 #46

Trump has POWER. That is the most dangerous part of the equation. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #131

He is an poorly educated, uncaring, very successful conman. TNNurse Mar 14 #47

Successful? Mr.Bill Mar 15 #173

Fred Trump was worth considerably less though Polybius Mar 15 #187

By not paying his bills and lying and cheating in every way he could. Mr.Bill Mar 15 #199

Don't forget fraud! MorbidButterflyTat Mar 16 #226

Well, he sort of got elected and managed to stay out of jail TNNurse Mar 15 #196

He's a loser bdamomma Mar 16 #233

Good assessment Evolve Dammit Mar 14 #48

Everyone that I have known to Bully their way to the top ItsjustMe Mar 14 #51

exactly et tu Mar 14 #63

If he loses the election, he will deny and call his "shock troops" to action. A rat backed Evolve Dammit Mar 14 #52

Yes, very good observation. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #136

I do think they will (try to burn US to the ground). Putin and the useful idiot have been very effective, so far. Evolve Dammit Mar 15 #191

Yes and it was much cheaper than a military operation. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #213

I truly believe that is what they want. Vlad showed them the way. He is their role model for total control of Evolve Dammit Mar 16 #237

Yes I know. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #238

I knew you know. Just gotta say the truth to someone! Evolve Dammit Mar 16 #239

Yes we have to say it out loud. The GOP has run out of options. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #240

"...cook out and eat borscht." Vodka run?? Evolve Dammit Mar 17 #245

Sure, the time honored 4th of July picnic in Moscow, drinking vodka. Irish_Dem Mar 17 #246

nothing would surprise me at this point! Evolve Dammit Mar 17 #248

I agree, nothing would come as a surprise when it comes to Trump and the GOP. Irish_Dem Mar 17 #250

It's a numbing; The "I Love Chaos" orange guy has normalized the Nazi-talk. 8 years in the making. Evolve Dammit Mar 17 #255

He doesn't have that many people Mr.Bill Mar 15 #200

Not sure. Project 2025 claims 35,000 lawyers and 20,000 fed workers are on board? Evolve Dammit Mar 16 #236

Stupidity and inabilities Nasruddin Mar 14 #54

He is late for jail is what I would call him. Emile Mar 14 #55

I've always ForgedCrank Mar 14 #56

Yes Trump is a superb manipulator and con artist. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #140

I've thought that for a long time. Being dumb leftyladyfrommo Mar 14 #57

The fact he is self destructing makes him more dangerous. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #141

Hopefully bdamomma Mar 16 #234

Trump is symptom and the idiot bastard front of those that benefit from his evil. PufPuf23 Mar 14 #59

Oligarchs and media usually align with autocrats. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #214

What's frightening are Americans who won't vote for Democrats for whatever stupid reason. betsuni Mar 14 #60

Please don't confuse being completely unprincipled with being intelligent Warpy Mar 14 #61

Do not confuse mental illness and intellectual functioning. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #143

He might have seemed clever in his youth, when he had better legal representation Warpy Mar 15 #184

He is as dumb as a ventriloquist dummy... JT45242 Mar 14 #62

Irish_Dem bdamomma Mar 14 #64

I think it is a complicated problem obviously. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #204

Education bdamomma Mar 15 #218

That is why propaganda inoculation is important. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #220

He may hire smart people... surfered Mar 14 #65

Define cost him? gab13by13 Mar 14 #77

Smart, even street smarts, have nothing to do with Ms. Toad Mar 14 #81

He is a smart man, someone else is paying all his legal bills. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #212

I couldn't agree more. Don't underestimate him. Look what he has done so far. twodogsbarking Mar 14 #67

He is significantly more dangerous now. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #91

Never underestimate ...."Evil." Stuart G Mar 15 #186

Obama's book struggle4progress Mar 14 #68

Hilarious. And true. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #89

Exactly orangecrush Mar 14 #69

Bullies don't stop until they are stopped. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #88

As someone mentioned above, he is an idiot savant. Gary 50 Mar 14 #70

Yes it is the single biggest con job in American history. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #86

Finally, someone says it all. colorado_ufo Mar 14 #72

Yes he has no shame, no scruples, no concern for others. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #74

Trump is an evil genius gab13by13 Mar 14 #75

You nailed it. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #79

I think Donald Trump is normally intelligent but dyslexic. raging moderate Mar 14 #85

You are very invested in that meme Ohio Joe Mar 15 #168

Excerpts from Laugh Riot, Fintan O'Toole, NYRB Mme. Defarge Mar 14 #78

Yes one reason Trump is so dangerous, he makes hatred and violence funny and exciting. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #82

Avec plaisir! Mme. Defarge Mar 14 #87

He's a predator and knows how to use fear to his advantage... MiHale Mar 14 #84

It's your field and not mine but being an imbecile is not inconsistent with being a sociopath TomSlick Mar 14 #90

He is a clever sociopath. Irish_Dem Mar 14 #95

I think we agree. TomSlick Mar 14 #105

I think you actually pointed out what he has which is cunning TheKentuckian Mar 14 #97

This would be considered part of intellect. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #138

he's a fucking idiot jcgoldie Mar 14 #106

He is so stupid gab13by13 Mar 14 #107

Yes... Mike Nelson Mar 14 #108

Blackmail Metaphorical Mar 14 #109

Come on now... he's fucking dumb as dirt Goodheart Mar 14 #110

No. He's stupid as shit. budkin Mar 14 #111

Democrats underestimate him at their peril. dalton99a Mar 14 #112

He's a goddamned sociopath. n/t CousinIT Mar 14 #113

Yes Trump is a cunning, ruthless, dangerous sociopath. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #129

Do you think he'll win in November? flamingdem Mar 15 #115

Of course Trump can get himself installed again. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #128

Vote for Joe Biden! DC77 Mar 15 #117

Yes, he is claudette Mar 15 #127

I have no credentials other than common sense Joinfortmill Mar 15 #133

Good assessment. He is emboldened, but in cognitive decline. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #135

He's a useful idiot propped up by people smarter and more dangerous than he. Shermann Mar 15 #139

Yes. Decades ago, a right-wing operative said we don't need a smart President. raging moderate Mar 16 #222

He is very cunning and a moron ........both at the same time. nt GuppyGal Mar 15 #142

There's a reason it's called low cunning NanaCat Mar 15 #145

I agree. He is far from smart. He looks at the sun redqueen Mar 15 #155

There is a difference between smart and stupid sociopaths. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #216

He is Evil. spanone Mar 15 #147

Trump is dumb but he's not stupid dlk Mar 15 #149

Yes & no... RevBrotherThomas Mar 15 #151

Very well said. mzmolly Mar 15 #152

When you are not smart enough to do things right birdographer Mar 15 #153

You knew I was a snake OMGWTF Mar 15 #154

👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Mar 15 #156

I see whatever intellectual acumen he is perceived to have as yet another form of savantism. BobTheSubgenius Mar 15 #158

It depends on your definition of stupid. According to Merriam and Webster "Stupid is an adjective that means slow of Martin68 Mar 15 #160

Trump is "smart" in the same way that Bernie Madoff and Charles Ponzi were. Ping Tung Mar 15 #161

He has the instincts of a predator. And the backing and resources of a super-predator, Putin. 58Sunliner Mar 15 #164

He isn't stupid Marthe48 Mar 15 #166

I don't know why the GOP is afraid of him sueh Mar 15 #167

This song from WWII sums up my feelings about Trump perfectly nikatnyte Mar 15 #175

categorically disagree. He IS stupid. Brainstormy Mar 15 #176

He is not dumb, but he is evil Roc2020 Mar 15 #177

And shrewd no_hypocrisy Mar 15 #179

He is dumb but berksdem Mar 15 #180

he's probably of average or marginally higher intelligence .....but he is ignorant as fuck prodigitalson Mar 15 #182

Many of history's most evil tyrants may have been crazy but they were also smart. totodeinhere Mar 15 #183

I disagree -misanthroptimist Mar 15 #185

He's ignorant but shrewd; the modern-day mob boss incarnate. And that's probably always what he allegorical oracle Mar 15 #188

If Trump was really ..."STUPID,".... he would be in prison right now. Yes, "RIGHT NOW " Stuart G Mar 15 #189

This OP is as chilling as it gets bucolic_frolic Mar 15 #190

Traditionally, stupid meant slow-witted, Trump mostly hates facts Model35mech Mar 15 #194

Yes he can read a room and situation quickly and manipulate to his advantage. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #208

He is not dumb Owens Mar 15 #195

Yes he is a narcissistic ruthless sociopath. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #207

I agree with you. We think he and his followers are stupid and are somewhat arrogant about it NorthCountryLib Mar 15 #197

Yes this is what makes him dangerous. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #206

Too many supporters are willing to give all his lying crap a pass to get what they want. RoeVWade Mar 15 #202

One of Trump's former aides says Trump will be much more dangerous this time. Irish_Dem Mar 15 #205

"Man....woman...camera... MorbidButterflyTat Mar 16 #227

You are not entirely incorrect. I would point out however... Caliman73 Mar 15 #203

Depends of the definition of stupid Maeve Mar 15 #209

he speak moron. pansypoo53219 Mar 16 #221

I would call him two things: 1. Loser 2. Late for jail Emile Mar 16 #224

Yup, I've been saying this since 2015. RandomNumbers Mar 16 #228

All we can do is keep warning people. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #229

But as you can see in this thread, even after all this time, even after all his destruction, people are STILL Scrivener7 Mar 17 #256

He understands power and public opinion. David__77 Mar 16 #230

Soulless predator. moondust Mar 16 #231

Trump is as stupid as they come. Watch what he does listen to what he says. He is stupid. Handler Mar 16 #232

The smartest sociopaths don't break the law, they make the law. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #242

No, Trump isn't cunning OR smart GenThePerservering Mar 16 #235

I assure you I am not mixing up the two. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #244

Oh, he is stupid. Straw Man Mar 16 #241

He is intellectually ignorant and shows it - that he has no formal education. GoodRaisin Mar 17 #247

He's a narcissist who unwittingly has an ability to manipulate stupid people. It's no deeper than that. nt Quixote1818 Mar 16 #243

It is much deeper than that. He is also a ruthless, dangerous sociopath. Irish_Dem Mar 17 #252

This is what happens when we just look at the obvious GenThePerservering Mar 17 #249

Trump himself is quite dangerous as are his minders. Irish_Dem Mar 17 #253

You're taking a lot of heat for saying this, and a lot of creepy condescension, but obviously he has something. Scrivener7 Mar 17 #254