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dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:42 PM Mar 16

State Medicaid offices target dead people's homes to recoup their health care costs [View all]

https://apnews.com/article/medicaid-estate-recovery-nursing-homes-65d5e637e19dc27bd1bd3b097d239b53

State Medicaid offices target dead people’s homes to recoup their health care costs
By AMANDA SEITZ
Updated 3:18 PM CDT, March 16, 2024

WASHINGTON (AP) — As Salvatore LoGrande fought cancer and all the pain that came with it, his daughters promised to keep him in the white, pitched roof house he worked so hard to buy all those decades ago.

So, Sandy LoGrande thought it was a mistake when, a year after her father’s death, Massachusetts billed her $177,000 for her father’s Medicaid expenses and threatened to sue for his home if she didn’t pay up quickly.

“The home was everything,” to her father said LoGrande, 57.

But the bill and accompanying threat weren’t a mistake.

Rather, it was part of a routine process the federal government requires of every state: to recover money from the assets of dead people who, in their final years, relied on Medicaid, the taxpayer-funded health insurance for the poorest Americans.

A person’s home is typically exempt from qualifying for Medicaid. But it is subject to the estate recovery process for those who were over 55 and used Medicaid to pay for long-term care such as nursing home stays or in-home health care.

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World's greatest healthcare system at it again ck4829 Mar 16 #1
They promise the homeowner he could stay in the house until he died. jimfields33 Mar 16 #6
OK ck4829 Mar 16 #9
That is a blessing for him and the family. jimfields33 Mar 16 #10
No it isn't a win. Seriously? Demsrule86 Mar 16 #17
Not a win. We pay taxes to provide services. AllyCat Mar 16 #18
Yes we do. In states that allow Medicaid it's a requirement to pay back from the estate. jimfields33 Mar 16 #20
It's not right. It's not a win. AllyCat Mar 17 #37
Did you forget the sarcasm thingie? niyad Mar 16 #25
It's completely F'd up. Prairie_Seagull Mar 17 #57
The children inheriting could have opted to move in and Pisces Mar 17 #61
This is nothing new. Goodheart Mar 16 #2
I disagree wholeheartedly ColinC Mar 16 #5
I'm speaking from experience. Goodheart Mar 16 #11
yep been thru probate with my moms estate...this is real dembotoz Mar 17 #46
In many ways.. North Shore Chicago Mar 16 #3
The political alternative would be no Medicaid at all. Goodheart Mar 16 #4
They're repossessing coffins now? Wonder Why Mar 16 #7
Is there a reason the heirs shoudl benefit, at the expense of the rest of us? Ms. Toad Mar 16 #8
Most "heirs" aren't compensated for their free caregiving labor leftstreet Mar 16 #14
this AllyCat Mar 16 #19
That is sometimes, but not universally, true. Ms. Toad Mar 16 #21
Good point about compensation for family caregivers. Not sure what requirements should be, but it's doable. Silent Type Mar 17 #26
Worth noting that family caregivers are disproportionately female TexasBushwhacker Mar 17 #31
Another good point that ought to be an easy tweak. But . . . . . . Silent Type Mar 17 #33
True, Ms. Toad Mar 17 #50
Family caregivers can be paid. TxGuitar Mar 17 #45
True. At least in some circumstances. Ms. Toad Mar 17 #51
Not true TxGuitar Mar 17 #43
Agree with this pinkstarburst Mar 17 #48
My mom receives Medicare JustAnotherGen Mar 16 #12
Medicare or Medicaid? Ms. Toad Mar 16 #22
Medicare and all of the Alphabet of Parts JustAnotherGen Mar 17 #72
Availability of Medicare has nothing to do with wealth. Ms. Toad Mar 17 #73
Understood and agree JustAnotherGen Mar 17 #75
Still don't see why divesting yourself of assets helps. Ms. Toad Mar 17 #76
I don't understand it either MichMan Mar 17 #77
I don't think so. Ms. Toad Mar 17 #79
And you will not get the step up in the cost basis of the house marybourg Mar 17 #34
My dad died in 2011 JustAnotherGen Mar 17 #74
Doesn't apply to Medicare TxGuitar Mar 17 #42
Makes zero sense; Medicare eligibility doesn't have anything to do with assets. MichMan Mar 17 #53
Confusion between Medicare and Medicaid. marybourg Mar 17 #58
If she goes into care in less than five years I think (nursing home), she will still lose the House. Demsrule86 Mar 17 #65
So in essence the govt. operates as a reverse mortgage lender. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 16 #13
he approves Celerity Mar 16 #24
OK, that got the best laugh of week for me. I'm still laughing. Silent Type Mar 17 #27
maybe the newly TV advertising "Christian Insurance" companies PlutosHeart Mar 17 #30
Medicaid is aid drmeow Mar 16 #15
I thought standard practice was to repossess babylonsister Mar 16 #16
I think some states might take one's home if there is no reasonable chance they will Silent Type Mar 17 #28
It never happens TxGuitar Mar 17 #41
After the person dies TxGuitar Mar 17 #44
I don't think heirs are "entitled" to anything Hamlette Mar 16 #23
What if the person doesn't own a house? IcyPeas Mar 17 #29
Then there's no home to take. Reimbursement only occurs when the marybourg Mar 17 #32
Then nothing happens TxGuitar Mar 17 #40
There are ways to get around it. Xolodno Mar 17 #35
It doesn't go poof. It goes to reimburse the marybourg Mar 17 #36
They didn't make it to a nursing home. Xolodno Mar 17 #64
The nerve of them! Billing people marybourg Mar 17 #66
Fifty bucks for a band aid? Xolodno Mar 17 #69
So that, which most of us have had to put up with, justifies your family marybourg Mar 17 #71
Hide money? Didn't have to. Xolodno Mar 17 #78
Then you are part of the problem TxGuitar Mar 17 #39
Nope. It's all legal and part of our system. Xolodno Mar 17 #67
Unfortunately, there are always some who gain pleasure from defrauding taxpayers by cheating the system MichMan Mar 17 #54
This. I used Mom's assets moonscape Mar 17 #63
The thing is...the laws are there. Xolodno Mar 17 #68
Mrs TxGuitar here TxGuitar Mar 17 #38
Medicaid is for people with no assets--it is absolutely fair pinkstarburst Mar 17 #47
My mother Rebl2 Mar 17 #49
Yes! "This is routine..." Grins Mar 17 #52
49 states look back 60 months (5 years). California uses 30 months dalton99a Mar 17 #60
With my elderly mother in NJ it was 10 years. Grins Mar 20 #81
Regular people don't have the luxury of having MOMFUDSKI Mar 17 #55
You need to have it five years before diagnosis jimfields33 Mar 17 #59
Years ago, I read about a Medicaid recovery case in WV Marthe48 Mar 17 #56
So Is Medicaid A Loan? WiVoter Mar 17 #62
Medicaid is only for people with no assets pinkstarburst Mar 17 #70
That's because medicaid is to provide assistance Zeitghost Mar 17 #80
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