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GusBob

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46. On this Rez

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:09 AM

Mar 24

Where I live and work
You could see the difference
We have 8 year olds that don’t know the letters on an eye chart
My teacher patients tell me it’s hard because the kids behind are holding everyone back
They all had lap tops and free breakfast and lunch still but to little avail

The luckiest kids had a mom grandma or auntie that was a teacher

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What the Data Says About Pandemic School Closures, Four Years Later [View all] Celerity Mar 24 OP

I don't believe that this one example demonstrates that remote learning is... Hugin Mar 24 #1

There is another aspect to this Shermann Mar 24 #25

That's an interesting expansion... Hugin Mar 24 #27

Online learning for adults is entirely different for children Yavin4 Mar 24 #59

I don't think you can draw a hard categorical line like that Shermann Mar 24 #76

Thank You WiVoter Mar 24 #56

I am grateful my grandchildren Tickle Mar 24 #2

Yes only closed a month for our area. jimfields33 Mar 24 #30

Also a nutmegger here 90-percent Mar 24 #34

Then we are neighbors Tickle Mar 24 #39

ma. 90-percent Mar 24 #81

You have your own slice of heaven Tickle Mar 24 #89

Schools did what they thought best at the time. Elessar Zappa Mar 24 #3

Many schools were already underfunded & crowded. Attilatheblond Mar 24 #72

I don't think the effect on the spread of the pandemic is knowable Shermann Mar 24 #4

I agree. It's impossible to know what the alternative would have caused underpants Mar 24 #15

Good point. Also, broadband availability is unequal. yardwork Mar 24 #19

Question how many senior citizens and other aged infirmed people are still alive because kids weren't bringing home.... usaf-vet Mar 24 #78

Fascinating malaise Mar 24 #5

It seems pretty obvious: the longer kids aren't learning in school or at home, they further they fall behind. sop Mar 24 #6

This smacks of "motivated" research. plimsoll Mar 24 #32

Good points. sop Mar 24 #45

Around Here, They've Caught Up... ProfessorGAC Mar 24 #7

Great response. plimsoll Mar 24 #33

+1. and thanks stopdiggin Mar 24 #57

For Many, It Was A Choice Between WiVoter Mar 24 #8

So, when I go to work today ismnotwasm Mar 24 #9

"The shutdowns in America didn't work because there was never full compliance. Ever." Hugin Mar 24 #17

Esactly. The shutdowns were a joke. We should have really shut down, completely for a few weeks and ended the spread. lindysalsagal Mar 24 #20

We would have if Hillary had been Prez. Nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 24 #49

I doubt it. Mariana Mar 24 #60

We never would have ended the spread. Ace Rothstein Mar 24 #80

I agree. MichMan Mar 24 #83

This is the correct response to the article. Remote learning does not directly correlate with self-controlled isolation. keopeli Mar 24 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author keopeli Mar 24 #41

Except for that killing teachers problem JT45242 Mar 24 #10

Exactly. tanyev Mar 24 #28

Bingo! nt Quixote1818 Mar 24 #77

I serve on a School Board. COVID had huge impacts on academic success and learning skills brooklynite Mar 24 #11

It was unavoidable. Elessar Zappa Mar 24 #36

Do you factor in dead students with 0 scores? HariSeldon Mar 24 #44

Where did I say this was a bad choice? brooklynite Mar 24 #47

What about the deaths of educators pressured into working during a lethal viral pandemic? Timeflyer Mar 24 #12

Extremely little coverage of teacher losses. Tells you how much we don't value our teachers. lindysalsagal Mar 24 #21

Could not agree more senseandsensibility Mar 24 #73

They should add to the charts the in-school students who got sick and the in-school students who died. Liberal In Texas Mar 24 #13

That remote learning didn't happen in a vacuum, though. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 24 #14

The teachers felt very vulnerable. yardwork Mar 24 #16

How do we pay and support them better? limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #48

A lot of these "public health and education experts" are people like Ron Desantis and Dr. Joseph Ladapo. sop Mar 24 #18

These averages are misleading: There are always students who can just "do the math" with or without teachers lindysalsagal Mar 24 #22

"Trust the science" Sympthsical Mar 24 #23

You have thick skin to not to be a little freaked by exponential viral spread with overcapacity emergency rooms. nt Shermann Mar 24 #26

I'm not talking about the early stages Sympthsical Mar 24 #29

Some right-wingers were calling to "let Covid rip" at the time. Shermann Mar 24 #37

are you including the closing of schools stopdiggin Mar 24 #66

what magic talismans are you referring to? ret5hd Mar 24 #31

Not at all. plimsoll Mar 24 #42

The closures in Spring 2020 were probably sufficient Prairie Gates Mar 24 #24

A million dead. Where are the Nuremberg style trials for that? ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 24 #50

And we must NEVER forget that Trump's administration threw out the book Attilatheblond Mar 24 #75

No compassion, no imagination Bad Thoughts Mar 24 #35

I'd agree, but there wasn't much relief on the state mandates. plimsoll Mar 24 #43

"Teachers and administrators were unwilling to do the work WiVoter Mar 24 #55

Thank you snpsmom Mar 24 #79

We simply don't know that closing schools did nothing pinkstarburst Mar 24 #38

Public health measures in the pandemic tried to balance competing risks, each unknown. hay rick Mar 24 #53

On this Rez GusBob Mar 24 #46

A few thoughts. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #51

"did throttle the rate of viral spread" No. It did not. Yavin4 Mar 24 #61

Well, I'm hard-pressed to see how you arrive at that conclusion. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #65

New Zealand had a high rate of spread as well as Singapore even with Draconian mitigation measures. Yavin4 Mar 24 #69

And the spread lagged behind other nations by significant margins. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #74

The virus still spread as it is spreading today. Yavin4 Mar 24 #84

SMH. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #86

simply doesn't fit the facts stopdiggin Mar 24 #70

From the article Yavin4 Mar 24 #85

It seemed obvious and I advocated for just redoing the Covid two years and every educator said that would be wrong. dutch777 Mar 24 #52

My daughter lost 5th and 6th grade to remote learning NickB79 Mar 24 #54

Hmm - "experts say, extended closures did little to stop the spread of Covid" isn't backed up with much muriel_volestrangler Mar 24 #58

And even if children were found to be less likely to become seriously ill, their parents and grandparents Scrivener7 Mar 24 #63

Turns out "if the transmissibility of subclinical infections is low" was a big "if" muriel_volestrangler Mar 27 #90

Two thoughts: First, on the medical side: until there was a vaccine, COVID Scrivener7 Mar 24 #62

I'm glad we're learning from the mistakes made during COVID so we're much better prepared when the next beaglelover Mar 24 #64

This is dramatic oversimplification angrychair Mar 24 #67

Exactly, I skimmed the full report and it left me with many questions JCMach1 Mar 24 #71

The educational establishment are the ones that consider themselves as the experts MichMan Mar 24 #82

It would be nice if there were even a pretense of caring about the teachers dsc Mar 24 #68

What about all the people that had to come to work daily because their job was deemed essential ? MichMan Mar 24 #87

Kids with IEPs were allowed back EllieBC Mar 24 #88