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DFW

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16. For all its lingering European defects, Germany was one of our successes
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 07:33 AM
Mar 30

Instead of letting Germany rebuild from former structures, as the Russians did in their sector, while realizing we couldn’t eradicate all former Nazis, we kept a firm steady hand on how West Germany was rebuilt, and remade it into a British style parliamentary democracy, and built in structures that inhibited a rebirth of the old strongman-at-the-top National Socialist/Socialist/Imperial structures of the past that led to repression and war. The coalitions of the recent past have been unwieldy, but at the same time proof that democracy is holding. Merkel’s four terms as Chancellor proved that a calm, reasonable steady hand at the top works better than either an uncompromising party-leader-for-life, or a let’s-do-nothing bureaucrat.

The postwar anti-militarist sentiment remains strong in western Germany-even much of the east is catching on-and religious dominance is low. That’s the way the people like it here, and that’s why Germany has immigration issues. People LIKE the stability here, despite the crowding and high costs, and inevitable inefficiencies. When top politicians in the USA start mouthing sentiments that remind Germans of what started their worst episode a century ago, they start to get very nervous, and rightly so.

I realize that Johnson and Trump couldn’t care less what their rantings sound like in European ears, but there are 500 million Europeans (and Canadians) who do care, and hope they won’t be forced by the American Extremist Right to do anything drastic about it.

That is terrifying! They plan to destroy America and replace it with brer cat Mar 30 #1
Your efforts are not pitiful. Thank you murielm99 Mar 30 #3
Thank you, muriel. You have dealt with much more than I have, brer cat Mar 30 #4
Those words might sound nice to a lot of swing voters, so I hope we counter it with similar language. "Big change" ColinC Mar 30 #2
Um... sounds like you're getting a little bit ahead of yourself, Johnson. calimary Mar 30 #5
Should not have read this directly before going to bed. Dem2theMax Mar 30 #6
Fascism completely controlling everything. Handmaid's tale. lindysalsagal Mar 30 #7
This Is The New Reality 100% HandmaidsTaleUntold Mar 30 #8
Great list of groups lostnfound Mar 30 #9
Might be fun to look into it a little. calimary Mar 30 #13
They'll have to close the borders and airports to stem the Exodus bucolic_frolic Mar 30 #10
the flow of 'illegals' Conjuay Mar 30 #19
They will just declare martial law and refuse to allow anyone near an airport or a border. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 30 #21
Good to have a second passport. TxGuitar Mar 30 #29
On the other hand, if Democrats take the House, and keep the Senate and the White House DFW Mar 30 #11
How far we've fallen in only 80 years -- to consider fleeing the US for Germany..... 70sEraVet Mar 30 #15
For all its lingering European defects, Germany was one of our successes DFW Mar 30 #16
Are we going to bdamomma Mar 30 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Conjuay Mar 30 #22
The list is long Roy Rolling Mar 30 #12
Yep. Branding 101. calimary Mar 30 #14
I am working on identifying what corporations, businesses and individuals are associated with this fascist crap maxrandb Mar 30 #17
To admit this is to admit all of it is about money. OldBaldy1701E Mar 30 #23
It's not only about money, it's about power as well maxrandb Mar 30 #30
Yep. Power is money and vice versa these days. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 30 #32
most of those changes will land on women BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 30 #18
Mike's been sniffing glue again. Didn't he notice the ALABAMA election last week? Vinca Mar 30 #20
May they keep talking and talking and telling us who they are and what they want. Biophilic Mar 30 #24
Kick StarryNite Mar 30 #25
The little prick is highly motivated and dangerous. dalton99a Mar 30 #26
and what will you do mickey when Biden wins the White House, and the Democrats control both the Senate and the House you JohnSJ Mar 30 #28
That would be the absolute worst possible outcome of the election. Initech Mar 30 #31
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