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Doc Sportello

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42. United States investment in the conflict is asymmetrical

Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:46 AM

Apr 26

Hamas doesn't get billions in military aid and other largesse from the United States, so we are paying for the bombs and munitions that have killed 10s of thousands. Therefore it makes sense that students in the United States, the majority of whom are American and some are Jewish, would focus on Israel and divestiture from U.S companies.

You could also ask the question of why some on here focus solely on Hamas, while ignoring or dismissing the human destruction that Israel has committed mostly against innocent civilians. I've seen lots and lots of mehs, shit happens, both siderisms and well, that's war, when the slaughter in Gaza is brought up.

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Regarding the multitude of protests about Israel [View all] no_hypocrisy Apr 26 OP

hamas is a terrorist organization... Think. Again. Apr 26 #1

Yes and No. no_hypocrisy Apr 26 #2

No, the brutality of hamas... Think. Again. Apr 26 #3

Yes, but it's also a valid component of accountability. no_hypocrisy Apr 26 #4

Yes, I agree, and I strongly.... Think. Again. Apr 26 #6

Actually, it is one and the same. Exactly the same. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #47

I disagree... Think. Again. Apr 26 #54

I hope you are not disagreeing that Hamas did jack shit for the safety of the civilians in Gaza. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #56

I stopped reading when you... Think. Again. Apr 26 #58

Where did I show that this is my only concern? Did you not get to reading my other concerns? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #60

It seems to me you're more concerned about justifying ... Think. Again. Apr 26 #61

I now get an idea why you object to international law being mentioned. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #63

But I didn't object to International law being mentioned... Think. Again. Apr 26 #66

"I stopped reading when you ...showed that your only concern is for who is liable under law." is hardly Beastly Boy Apr 26 #67

I'd like to end this discussion somehow... Think. Again. Apr 26 #68

That's fine. To which I can only reply Beastly Boy Apr 26 #69

How are the protests being effective in real time? brooklynite Apr 26 #19

As proven by this post... Think. Again. Apr 26 #23

So, nobody was discussing the issue before the campus protests started? brooklynite Apr 26 #32

You could say that about any protest. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #38

I'm not aware that we're "protesting". brooklynite Apr 26 #44

I don't know if your protesting or not... Think. Again. Apr 26 #55

I can't speak for all protestors, but at least at Columbia they are calling for a ceasefire and divestment in war profi ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #5

The protesters are not making this clear at all. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #7

Huh? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #10

Exactly my point. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #14

And my point is that you are wrong to think they want hamas to keep shooting while Israel stops. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #18

This is not what I think at all. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #24

I can't comment on what you see or don't see. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #28

Do you see anything different from what I see? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #37

Were you aware that the Vietnam War protests didn't always explicitly call for hanoi to stop fighting? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #40

Another deflection, but I will bite. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #45

Yes, and HAMAS broke that cease fire Mossfern Apr 26 #51

Hamas has a habit of breaking cease fires Mossfern Apr 26 #8

So a protestor cannot call for a ceasefire because one side might break it? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #11

A protester has the right to protest anything Mossfern Apr 26 #13

I don't think they want a one sided ceasefire. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #15

Well then Mossfern Apr 26 #16

Guess you sure know the future. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #17

What are they doing besides protesting? Mossfern Apr 26 #22

They want columbia to divest and they want a ceasefire ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #25

If Columbia divests do you really think that will sway Israeli policy? Mossfern Apr 26 #50

A cease fire means an end to the siege of Gaza. Big Blue Marble Apr 26 #64

If they are calling for a cease fire, wouldn't it be more to the point to call out those who break cease fires? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #48

War profits? brooklynite Apr 26 #20

I can't speak for any of the protestors on that one. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #29

To you personally, did Hamas not invade Israel? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #49

How are the Palestinian people being decimated by Hezbollah? elias7 Apr 26 #9

While hezbollah doesn't attack Palestinians... ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #12

TBH, I wish these students gave half as much a shit about... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #21

I believe there have been... Think. Again. Apr 26 #26

Nothing like this, and you know it. Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #34

My concern for the lives and well-being... Think. Again. Apr 26 #41

Those kind of protests were actually grassroots and not professionally organized and funded. betsuni Apr 26 #27

Its funny, i went to a pro lgbt event and no one even mentioned gun violence! ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #31

You know what I mean... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #35

Oh if you know why, why hide it from us? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #36

I haven't hid it. Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #39

They couldn't care less about those issues BannonsLiver Apr 26 #46

I would like to understand JustAnotherGen Apr 26 #30

Lately columbia has been checking ids at their gates ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #33

United States investment in the conflict is asymmetrical Doc Sportello Apr 26 #42

Israel doesn't get billions to defend against Hamas. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #52

Boy that is some sleight of hand Doc Sportello Apr 26 #57

Which do you consider to be a sleight of hand? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #59

My post was about why there is an asymmetry on this subject Doc Sportello Apr 26 #62

My post was about the validity of your explanation Beastly Boy Apr 26 #65

Exactly. Goddessartist Apr 26 #53

There is a lot of hypocrisy, phoniness and other shit JI7 Apr 26 #43