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grumpyduck

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46. I don't see the problem here.

Fri May 3, 2024, 06:25 PM

May 2024

Some of the people arrested have been students. Some not.

I haven't been to any of these myself, but I don't see why we're thinking that outside demonstrators are urging the students to get violent. For all we know the real students may just be demonstrating and the outsiders are the ones causing the physical damage, hiding behind the students.

Until I see a line-up showing who, individually, did what, I'm not going to assume anything.

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Pushing the idea that agitators led protesters into bad behavior is absurd [View all] ripcord May 2024 OP

Sensible response Marcus IM May 2024 #1

President Biden spoke out against the protesters actions and said it needed to stop ripcord May 2024 #3

Protesting is one thing, violence and destruction is another. Freethinker65 May 2024 #2

I agree. Damaging school properties is unacceptable. Marcus IM May 2024 #9

Cute. You honestly feel violence/destruction of your own campus is justified? Freethinker65 May 2024 #17

Huh? Where do you get that? Marcus IM May 2024 #27

Because apparently they honestly feel the violence and destruction in Gaza is justified. nt. Voltaire2 May 2024 #34

Because of the violence and destruction in Gaza sarisataka May 2024 #39

Folks don't JustAnotherGen May 2024 #56

That might be true, but currently real people Voltaire2 May 2024 #60

Are US Jews not real people? sarisataka May 2024 #61

US Jews are currently being bombed shot and starved to death Voltaire2 May 2024 #81

Not at all what I said, nor do i believe sarisataka May 2024 #85

The Jewish people murdered by Hamas during the attack were real people. Demsrule86 May 2024 #76

Because I thought the images were insinuating what you appear to be accusing me of Freethinker65 May 2024 #57

That's just fine as Gazans don't really count as people. Voltaire2 May 2024 #32

The narrative has completely collapsed sarisataka May 2024 #4

Just had a convo with my sister who's daughter's father is cachukis May 2024 #5

Sounds about right. A mix of opinions, with some problematic sloganeering. maxsolomon May 2024 #7

The table of eleven Nazis Bad Thoughts May 2024 #11

They are also misguided and naive. shrike3 May 2024 #12

My sister insisted they were strong in their cachukis May 2024 #21

They certainly aren't strong in their assessment of all the issues. shrike3 May 2024 #48

I think I implied your sentiments. They have strength in cachukis May 2024 #49

It's too bad. Maybe it's youth. The inability to see the big picture. shrike3 May 2024 #50

They don't seek out their elders. cachukis May 2024 #51

TBF, I don't recall my friends and I seeking out their elders, either. shrike3 May 2024 #64

I was referring to the ages. I mentioned we do it too. cachukis May 2024 #66

Certainly social media plays a role. shrike3 May 2024 #75

No question. Simply seeing the change in the cachukis May 2024 #77

Kushner is a jagoff, but that's not really what his comments were about. maxsolomon May 2024 #53

Either way would not be a good result for palestinians. shrike3 May 2024 #63

Wasn't kids protesting Vietnam called similar? uponit7771 May 2024 #54

Well, they had Nixon to deal with afterwards. shrike3 May 2024 #62

True... they turned against LBJ which turned out to be a HUGE mistake. AnrothElf May 2024 #67

I agree. Civil rights protests were so righteous. I'm in awe of those who stood up in them. shrike3 May 2024 #74

No respect for people who won't vote for Biden because of his age flamingdem May 2024 #88

Clearly you're not familiar with the Black Watch Bobstandard May 2024 #6

Black Bloc maxsolomon May 2024 #8

It's Black Block! Thanks for the correction nt Bobstandard May 2024 #13

Bloc? Not according to my autocorrect. nt Bobstandard May 2024 #14

Haven't heard much about Black Bloc these days XorXor May 2024 #84

Not really Sympthsical May 2024 #92

Bloc not watch, and they are not really an organization, more of a mode of protest. Voltaire2 May 2024 #36

I dunno... I remember being a kid... Happy Hoosier May 2024 #10

Do you have any proof the students wsre influenced by outsiders? ripcord May 2024 #18

The fact that a large proportion of the "protestors" were not students Happy Hoosier May 2024 #19

So no proof, it is just one of those things you know ripcord May 2024 #22

Media reports are saying a large number of those arrested Qutzupalotl May 2024 #23

That doesn't prove that they influenced the students in any way ripcord May 2024 #24

How would one prove influence? Qutzupalotl May 2024 #28

So you have nothing, not surpised ripcord May 2024 #30

I notice you did not answer the question. Qutzupalotl May 2024 #33

You made a statemet like that without anything to ba k it up ripcord May 2024 #35

YOU made the assertion that outsiders are not influencing protestors. Qutzupalotl May 2024 #38

If you bother to read the OP ripcord May 2024 #40

There is no evidence they are or are not being influenced Qutzupalotl May 2024 #42

LOL the onus is on you to prove a positive, not on them to prove a negative. AnrothElf May 2024 #69

I did not make that claim. Qutzupalotl May 2024 #72

"Proof" is about being convinced. Happy Hoosier May 2024 #70

I don't care if non students were there. The students were adults and didn't need to follow them. jimfields33 May 2024 #29

You've lost the narrative. It is very important to express outrage over the outside agitators. Voltaire2 May 2024 #37

I AM outraged over these outsiders... Happy Hoosier May 2024 #71

For the most part the 'outside agitators' were Voltaire2 May 2024 #73

I don't believe that 21 year olds JustAnotherGen May 2024 #58

"WE ARE HAMAS!" Student or 'agitator'? AnrothElf May 2024 #68

not really Chakaconcarne May 2024 #15

I agree that the protesters made their own adult choices. The right ones. Ping Tung May 2024 #16

Actually, if the police are at a protest because of civil disobedience, for acts beyond free speech... Silent3 May 2024 #20

I'm amazed people believe all you have to do is say civil disobedience ripcord May 2024 #25

When I was protesting the cops were hardly civilized. Ping Tung May 2024 #26

The police are in no win situation. jimfields33 May 2024 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo May 2024 #47

You have an odd sense of the absurd... Think. Again. May 2024 #41

I must havw missed the part where she told them to engage in hate speech or destruction ripcord May 2024 #43

Yeah, it seems you might have missed quite a bit.. Think. Again. May 2024 #44

She was filmed occupying Hamilton Hall with them. Then she ducked out before everyone was arrested. LeftInTX May 2024 #45

I don't see the problem here. grumpyduck May 2024 #46

Remember the guy dressed all in black, masked, who smashed store windows during Black Lives Matter peaceful protests? mahina May 2024 #52

ITA JustAnotherGen May 2024 #55

? mahina May 2024 #59

Here: applegrove May 2024 #65

If you want to protest, but you are not a student, where do you end up? Midnight Writer May 2024 #78

Reactionaries blamed "outside agitators" for civil rights marches and demonstrations John Shaft May 2024 #79

Where were these "students" The Wizard May 2024 #80

this is one of the most disgusting things ever posted on DU. Offensive and sickening. TomDaisy May 2024 #82

this is something I expect from MAGA TomDaisy May 2024 #83

Yeah, kinda makes ya wonder... Think. Again. May 2024 #86

Some of the takes on here about the protestors obamanut2012 May 2024 #87

"Outside agitators" didn't spray paint and barricade Royce Hall flamingdem May 2024 #89

TY! Cha May 2024 #91

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