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cab67

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Thu Jun 6, 2024, 05:06 PM Jun 2024

Why I'm hacked off at the History Channel. [View all]

And with those other channels that, when they first came out, produced lots of decent documentaries.

These documentaries did a good job of finding living eyewitnesses to the events they cover. The memories related by these eyewitnesses - and in many cases, survivors - were far more compelling than the reenactments or comments by scholars.

Then, they turned everything over to "reality" shows and pseudoscientific/pseudohistorical bullshit.

I'm thinking of this as we commemorate the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings. The number of veterans who lived through it dwindles every year.

Some of my favorite documentary series are the BBC World At War series from the early 1970's, Vietnam:A Television History on PBS in the 1980's, and the Ken Burns series on both wars. BBC also did a series on the First World War in the 1960's, and I once saw a documentary - I no longer remember where - on the Civil Rights movement of the 1950's and 1960's.

All of these documentaries did a fantastic job of recording living memory. The emotion that came through, in some cases many decades after the events, was (and remains) deeply moving.

Steven Spielberg and Yad Vishem have done an excellent job of recording the memories of Holocaust survivors and others who saw it (e.g. camp liberators). I wish other historical events were treated to this sort of attention.

I've had the privilege of meeting people who lived through historical events, but that's not true of everyone. I've met Apollo astronauts who walked on the moon, for example, and it meant a great deal, but those who won't have that opportunity can watch In the Shadow of the Moon, in which those who flew on these missions -many of whom have since passed away - can be heard for themselves.

Hearing about these events from those who lived through them is far, far more compelling than the sober assessment of a modern historian who might have access to documents and the perspective of time, but who can never show the kind of emotion through their eyes that someone who actually saw it - who was actually there - can do.

We need more of this - not less. It's an absolute tragedy that media outlets that once added to this archive of living experience have been given over to trash.

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I loved The History Channel years ago PatSeg Jun 2024 #1
PBS has never lost sight of excellent historical programming Hekate Jun 2024 #2
Ancient Aliens doesn't do it for you? DET Jun 2024 #3
Or the latest "Lost Treasure of..."? n/t thenelm1 Jun 2024 #27
THC Shows I watch weekly are "Oak Island" and "Skinwalker Ranch" StClone Jun 2024 #31
TCM has been airing D-Day movies today... TSExile Jun 2024 #4
The documentary on the Hoover Dam was great TV underpants Jun 2024 #5
I remember when it used to be known as the Hitler channel..... lastlib Jun 2024 #13
Reality TV is cheap to make underpants Jun 2024 #34
That's why a good 75% of what I watch on TV now comes from my Roku's YouTube app. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2024 #6
I have both the World at War and the Great War on disc. pecosbob Jun 2024 #7
See also A&E, Bravo, The Learning Channel, etc. tanyev Jun 2024 #8
I guarantee you they stopped because they didn't like being called The Hitler Channel. Iggo Jun 2024 #9
They still have the occasional decent series ITAL Jun 2024 #10
There was one on US Grant as well with a British Actor in the role of Grant. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2024 #12
Yeah, it was good ITAL Jun 2024 #19
British Actor Nicholas Rowe played Washington. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2024 #20
NETFLIX is streaming VIKINGS... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2024 #11
Vikings was great! 🖤🖤🖤 Celerity Jun 2024 #24
Indeed. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2024 #33
Annoys Me A Bit, Too ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #14
Yeah, the History channel went the way of The Learning Channel sakabatou Jun 2024 #15
And Bravo, and Headline News. n/t Xavier Breath Jun 2024 #40
Wasn't Bravo for classic films? sakabatou Jun 2024 #41
Bravo did showcase classic films akin to TCM's presentation Xavier Breath Jun 2024 #42
There are documentary online channels that show videos of hundreds of documenataries Jacson6 Jun 2024 #16
If you have YouTube SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2024 #17
You're right - there are lots of excellent documentaries on YouTube. cab67 Jun 2024 #26
Wow SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2024 #38
I recommend this BBC/History Channel co-production tonight "The Unheard Tapes" - audio interviews of D-Day veterans muriel_volestrangler Jun 2024 #18
Thank You! DET Jun 2024 #36
I've watched some good history programming on The Smithsonian Channel n/t tom_kelly Jun 2024 #21
i loved the 13 dr as of many of her shows were a docudrama. another one i liked was capatin zero who did this as well AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #22
It was first on the BBC then the history channel but Simon Schama's "The History of Britain" was excellent Botany Jun 2024 #23
If you want real history melm00se Jun 2024 #25
Big Brother meets Godzilla. SarahD Jun 2024 #28
Cable channels as a whole went WAY downhill Warpy Jun 2024 #29
I loathe cable with all the fury of a thousand marmosets in an itching powder factory ArkansasDemocrat1 Jun 2024 #30
Civil rights documentary was probably NanaCat Jun 2024 #32
I saw it many years earlier than that. cab67 Jun 2024 #35
I enjoy the documentaries and highly recommend Ken Burns Viet Nam war. GoodRaisin Jun 2024 #37
There is no way the Allies could attempt to take Normandy and survive, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2024 #39
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