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In reply to the discussion: DU POLL: Do you think there should be a cap on how much wealth one individual can accumulate? [View all]ieoeja
(9,748 posts)109. Taxing wealth would lead to even more concentration of wealth into fewer hands.
First, let me remind everybody that we already have some forms of a wealth tax. I pay roughly $13,000 a year in property taxes, for instance. Now, back to my subject line:
Lets take, for example, me.
I am a millionaire on paper. I own a rundown house in Chicago. I am buying a nice apartment that I rent out at a slight loss. And the biggie is that I recently inherited a 240 acre farm.
Wealth
-------
House worth $350k (even if it is falling down; literally at certain points)
Farm worth $850k
Equity in apartment ~$100k
Estimated Total Wealth = $1,300,000
Lets say you tax that at 10%. Then my annual tax liability would be $130,000.
Income
--------
Job $100K
Farm $8k
Apt $21,600 (mortgage is roughly $22,200, but that doesn't matter to the IRS)
Total Income ~$130k
Believe it or not, I did not do the math before I started writing this. I knew my income would not let me pay a 10% wealth tax, but I didn't realize my gross income currently exactly equals.
Obviously, I can not afford to keep my wealth at even a 10% tax. So I have to sell my property.
Who can buy my $850K farm then pay the $85k annual tax? Someone who can afford the tax ($85k-8k = $77k loss).
Fine. The farm that has been in my family since the 1840s is now gone. What about that house? Can I afford $35K a year in wealth tax? Yes. But that would be quite a hit. In fact, at even a low 10% rate, I wouldn't see the point of owning the house. I might as well find an apt.
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DU POLL: Do you think there should be a cap on how much wealth one individual can accumulate? [View all]
RKP5637
Nov 2012
OP
Yep, I recall it as being more balanced back then, and there were lots of extremely wealthy
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#5
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head as to what I was trying to state. I too have no
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#8
YES! If the value of your house rises beyond a certain level, the Government should confiscate it!
Nye Bevan
Nov 2012
#7
It would need to be refined ... speaking more of rigged manipulative wealth, those gaming the system
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#12
Yes, definitely for outrageous wealth building useless aristocratic empires that
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#16
I was surprised too! Basically a no is saying we like the rigged system for the 1% and the
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#19
Yes!!! If I were to do this poll again I should have said taxed rather than capped. n/t
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#20
Yes - the "job creators" need the shit taxed out of them. It's way past time to end the free ride!
Initech
Nov 2012
#81
Taxing wealth would lead to even more concentration of wealth into fewer hands.
ieoeja
Nov 2012
#109
An effective tax would prevent anyone from exceeding the cap but that is even harder to craft
IDoMath
Nov 2012
#68
We could do modeling for it with effective systems, computing power and 'what if' scenarios. The
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#104
Exactly!!! This can be solved! In the big picture, this is a very solvable problem. It's
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#110
I see that as a root cause for many of the problems today, as you said, ""an "anything goes"
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#53
no, but there should be much higher tax brackets for much higher income levels
Motown_Johnny
Nov 2012
#43
Not as such. As has been pointed out previously, the key is to severely restrict the capacity to
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#58
What I see is that formula has been broken, in past decades it worked quite well, but now
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#61
Today, the tentacles run deep, and somehow, sometimes, those with nothing are led to believe they
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#66
I often think some are so disillusioned, even if they don't realize it, that they need to turn to
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#87
That's it exactly. Huge fortunes are a severe drain on the economy. Ours
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#85
Yep, allowing endless inherited wealth contributes to empire building often those empires having
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#100
Those in desperation are often not seen in this country, the media paves over them for the most
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#69
No. But income and income from accumulated wealth should be taxed fairly with no loopholes. nt
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#67
I think that's the best way to approach it, through fair taxation that benefits all. And riddance of
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#97
I would be happy with a fair tax system that treated all income the same with Wall St gambling
yurbud
Nov 2012
#72
Here is an interesting take from Thomas Jefferson that is relevant to this topic.
Zorra
Nov 2012
#74
No, but neither should there be a cap on how much the wealthy must repay....
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2012
#79
Redressing this problem is what the tax code should be for, among other things n/t
eridani
Nov 2012
#94
Yes, it should be ... one of the problems often is the wealthy worm their way into positions
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#99
I think what is required is a review/modification of the entire tax code. It's complicated, so
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#98
What if you're an inventor or author and you sell too many products to consumers?
mainer
Nov 2012
#105
I agree, it's a slippery slope! In retrospect, I should have worded it differently, more
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#114