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In reply to the discussion: This is why we need to be able to openly discuss facts, regardless of who the nominee is. [View all]meadowlander
(4,787 posts)49. How was describing what I honestly saw at the debate treating people poorly?
Here's my self-reflection:
I described what I saw as objective reality - that Joe trailed off in the middle of his thoughts and that he did in fact perform poorly at the debate in a way that could not be attributed to the moderators, the camera angles, his cold, etc. I posted polls that showed he was behind and had been for some time. I did it because I thought we needed to support a hard decision with the truth and the facts as we best understood them at the time as our guide. And I posted all of those things civilly without ever hurling personal abuse at anyone or attributing malicious motivations to them. And I would do exactly the same thing next time.
There you go. Your turn.
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This is why we need to be able to openly discuss facts, regardless of who the nominee is. [View all]
meadowlander
Jul 2024
OP
The vast majority of regular Dem Voters wanted Biden to step Aside nt
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#24
Plus, if people were relying on this Forum to be informed, they were wearing green sunglasses like the visitors to
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#25
It's not about claiming victimhood. It's about asking for some self-reflection.
meadowlander
Jul 2024
#13
People who have multiple posts hidden and the hides not overturned on appeal
Prairie Gates
Jul 2024
#23
How was describing what I honestly saw at the debate treating people poorly?
meadowlander
Jul 2024
#49
No, I support being able to have an open, civil conversation about it, regardless of who people support.
meadowlander
Jul 2024
#18
The facts couldn't be rejected because the facts were not allowed.
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#22
"We could say that there is no praise for keeping a candidate such as Biden on the ticket."
W_HAMILTON
Jul 2024
#28
Many of those that voted for Biden, changed their mind when they saw evidence of his current abilities.
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#33
I think you fail to realize that a vote in a primary is not the one that ultimately matters.
Goodheart
Jul 2024
#36
Yours is probably the stronger point. Both are true. Things change and Biden is Great nt
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#37
I have been making this point for weeks. Many didn't know that a majority of all Dem Voters wanted Biden to Step Aside
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#21
And let me add that silencing those voices allowed this to be framed as an attack on Biden
Ms. Toad
Jul 2024
#29
I couldn't even state the fact that recent polling said "AVERAGE Dems" wanted him to step aside.
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#39
I tried to argue respectfully that Joe should step aside and got punished for it.
Goodheart
Jul 2024
#32