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101. She ran a bad campaign in Pennsylvania

Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:15 AM

Jul 2024

whether you want to believe it or not. If she'd run a smarter campaign here, she'd have won. We don't elect presidents based on the national population vote so that argument is irrelevant.

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It was not some grand plan, it was a massive failure. [View all] jg10003 Jul 2024 OP

so true! nt macwriter Jul 2024 #1

Yet big donors weren't coming forth with campaign checks. Omnipresent Jul 2024 #105

that is the heart of the problem edisdead Jul 2024 #118

true rampartc Jul 2024 #131

Yep Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #161

I guess you know more than Biden about this. Klarkashton Jul 2024 #2

I think it is/was EXTREMELY clear, that Biden wanted to continue stopdiggin Jul 2024 #20

The most powerful person in the world was "brow-beaten" brooklynite Jul 2024 #57

I think Joe Biden made this decision himself stopdiggin Jul 2024 #67

I think Pres Biden Bowed Out For Unity and Democracy.. There were So Many Excellent Cha Jul 2024 #90

While Trump crows about his "taking a bullet" for the country... CincyDem Jul 2024 #92

Yeah, We had some pretty Wonderful Stay Donors.. Cha Jul 2024 #93

and I would not disagree with any of that stopdiggin Jul 2024 #121

But they didn't, and we are in a different situation now. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #3

Joe Manchin wants to run as a Democrat BWdem4life Jul 2024 #7

If the alternative was Trump, I would. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #12

I guess it's a good thing repigs have a bad enough candidate that we would have to settle for the likes of Manchin. BWdem4life Jul 2024 #16

As I have said before, I'd vote for any Democrat who could fog up a mirror Ocelot II Jul 2024 #18

Of course, Blue No Matter Who... emulatorloo Jul 2024 #44

Manchin doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Dem nomination. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #43

this is true but msm and maddow are pushing the story so it must happen ImNotGod Jul 2024 #61

😃 Happily I have no problem tuning them out! emulatorloo Jul 2024 #64

Right. We have enough real problems, without worrying about hypothetical problems. griffi94 Jul 2024 #152

Hell no chicoescuela Jul 2024 #13

He's not a Democrat Pisces Jul 2024 #14

Reportedly, he was considering re-registering as a Democrat. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #17

Turn coats need not apply Pisces Jul 2024 #167

back up ... you're actually articulating that you would NOT vote stopdiggin Jul 2024 #27

Context BWdem4life Jul 2024 #32

not my kind of Democrat stopdiggin Jul 2024 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2024 #48

I want to be Emperor of the Planet Zongo relayerbob Jul 2024 #54

My feelings exactly.............n/t chillfactor Jul 2024 #4

I'm glad somebody is saying it Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #5

That's how I've felt for the last few weeks. nt LAS14 Jul 2024 #166

No. People saw the debate. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #6

THANK YOU Skittles Jul 2024 #15

But you are telling us we have to be enthused, even if we are not currently, because of the way the President displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #22

My enthusiasm is entirely aimed at defeating Trump. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #45

My enthusiasm was aimed at a second Biden/Harris administration displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #72

Dump didn't exactly shine during the debate. StarryNite Jul 2024 #25

newsflash Skittles Jul 2024 #26

Skittles, you are the best! Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #49

So should Hillary Clinton. And she lost to him. lees1975 Jul 2024 #65

I DID MOVE ON Skittles Jul 2024 #68

Whoa there Tweedy Jul 2024 #91

Mahalo! Rec. Cha Jul 2024 #95

"Winning" the debate doesn't guarantee election victory Kaleva Jul 2024 #98

Nah Tweedy Jul 2024 #110

The media piled on because the owners ordered them to do so Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #112

I wouldn't put Obama's and Reagan's performance in the same category Kaleva Jul 2024 #120

There are more to add Tweedy Jul 2024 #122

As poorly as Obama or Reagan or even Gore in that one debate Jk23 Jul 2024 #126

Ad hominem is never supposed to win any argument Tweedy Jul 2024 #160

This was about the fact that the overwhelming majority of everyday Dems wanted Biden to step aside. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #37

I refuse to believe that Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #123

Is that why 14 million dems voted for him? GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #128

The Democratic base was just not energized enough to defeat Trump. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #47

Maybe not. Desert grandma Jul 2024 #76

No, there is a spark and an energy and a fire now that didn't exist 24 hours ago. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #80

Agree 100% Rstrstx Jul 2024 #97

I totally disagree! GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #130

Well, of course it is! Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #150

The expectations were set very high for Joe Zambero Jul 2024 #62

Yes. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #63

So Pres Biden had one Bad Debate and he Rallied the Next Day.. Cha Jul 2024 #86

You explained it perfectly. Also... Oopsie Daisy Jul 2024 #99

I absolutely hate the way our president was treated by some people here, but apparently that's ok. we can do it Jul 2024 #107

Amen! Oopsie Daisy Jul 2024 #108

Just how much is President Biden supposed to give anyway?? AkFemDem Jul 2024 #103

Agree... if things were coming together where it appeared he could win, the Irish in him would have kept PortTack Jul 2024 #141

It would sit better with me if Democratic leaders hadn't spent the past 3 weeks Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #158

This. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #96

Everyone was angry with Jon Stewart on his comeback show Jk23 Jul 2024 #125

Thank God for the wisdom of Jon Stewart displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #159

yeah OK Skittles Jul 2024 #165

I hope you are never judged in your professional life based on one negative thing you did. onecaliberal Jul 2024 #129

To be fair... Yorkist Jul 2024 #8

I'm ecstatic. Sorry you are so upset. nt LexVegas Jul 2024 #9

It's concerning that GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #133

how long will disillusionment posts be allowed Skittles Jul 2024 #10

This BlueInPhilly Jul 2024 #24

Stop it. It hasn't even been a full day since the backstabbers got their way and forced out Biden. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #31

DOES NOT MATTER Skittles Jul 2024 #33

Your tone isn't helpful. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #39

Priority One now is defeating Trump. We can do post game analysis after we kick Trump's ass to the curb. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #55

Yeah and telling people their frustration DOES NOT MATTER isn't helping do that. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #56

I'm very frustrated too. But I have more important stuff to do right now - DEFEATING TRUMP emulatorloo Jul 2024 #60

What exactly are you doing at this moment to defeat Trump? Self Esteem Jul 2024 #77

Do what you need to do at your own pace. And a slightly belated welcome to DU! emulatorloo Jul 2024 #89

+100 crimycarny Jul 2024 #142

*I* do not expect to be coddled Skittles Jul 2024 #69

And you will need as many allies as possible. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #74

once again, we are FIGHTING FASCISM Skittles Jul 2024 #75

And your attitude isn't helping. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #78

Exactly..and thank you for voicing the truth of things. PortTack Jul 2024 #144

Exactly.. Not "helpful" at all. Just the Opposite. Cha Jul 2024 #88

Are you for real? displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #79

Why are you overlooking the fact that President Biden ultimately made this decision because he felt he couldn't win? PortTack Jul 2024 #145

Calling it "backstabbers" is not fair. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #40

I agree. It's much worse than that but I don't want to get banned. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #41

Sorry but it's fair because these GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #135

Maybe you can consider newdayneeded Jul 2024 #111

Cut off legitimate expressions of grief and disgust with the way things were done just like the votes of the people lees1975 Jul 2024 #53

yeah WE GET IT Skittles Jul 2024 #87

What do you get? displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #100

I agree, we are fighting the nightmare of fascism Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #113

the Supreme Court decided that big money will run elections Skittles Jul 2024 #163

Don't you just love anyone telling you what to do Cha Jul 2024 #94

... Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #114

Aww Cha Jul 2024 #157

I'm asking the same thing. President Biden felt he couldn't win...why are so many fighting that? Sad indeed, PortTack Jul 2024 #143

This! lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #153

... BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #11

Typing fast to beat the post removal. usonian Jul 2024 #19

I get it. I understand angrychair Jul 2024 #21

They should remember what happened with Trump in 2016 BluenFLA Jul 2024 #23

Comey talked nonsense about Hillary's emails Skittles Jul 2024 #29

Sorry, but she ran a terrible campaign Deminpenn Jul 2024 #81

if she ran a bad campaign Skittles Jul 2024 #85

She ran a bad campaign in Pennsylvania Deminpenn Jul 2024 #101

The popular vote doesn't matter Jk23 Jul 2024 #138

Trump is a cheater and a liar Jk23 Jul 2024 #137

I've thought about this. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #35

It's about the voters planj07 Jul 2024 #28

Exactly. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #52

You're not wrong especially about young voters Jk23 Jul 2024 #139

I thought your lead in was about trump and 2025. I think pwb Jul 2024 #30

and that's another thing that needs to stop Skittles Jul 2024 #71

It was absolutely a massive failure on our party's part... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #34

They tried that and no amount of gaslighting people that they didn't see what they saw at the debates meadowlander Jul 2024 #36

Remember hoping to watch Biden smoke TSF in debate, or at least hold his own. He tried, he was right, trump lied, but Silent Type Jul 2024 #42

He also had a cold, or possibly the beginnings of Covid Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #115

Biden is a smart, tremendous leader and he is behind Harris for President. nt still-prayin4rain Jul 2024 #46

And this is what really matters! PortTack Jul 2024 #149

Unfortunately true. nt BootinUp Jul 2024 #50

It is what it is. Time to help VP Harris defeat Trump. Number one priority right now. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #51

Yeah. Leave the grand plan stuff to Alex Jones, et al. RockRaven Jul 2024 #58

He was indeed forced out, and we will remember relayerbob Jul 2024 #59

Egged on by certain individuals who have "pull" with donors. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #66

Doesn't matter now. Joe's not running. spanone Jul 2024 #70

There were several key extenuating circumstances here Metaphorical Jul 2024 #73

Too many Congressional dems a disaster just like in 2000 by GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #82

I was a vigorous supoorter, however now... IbogaProject Jul 2024 #83

Silk purse/sow's ear. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #84

As far as "failures" go, this could have turned out much worse ColinC Jul 2024 #102

I get what you are saying. Doodley Jul 2024 #106

I guess we will know how much worse (or hopefully better) it gets come November displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #162

Beating fascism is more important than any one person. We are in a stronger position now. We have to move forward. Doodley Jul 2024 #104

It had gone well behind stuttering and 'senior' moments JCMach1 Jul 2024 #109

Okay, so the next time you're exhausted and have a bad cold Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #124

My point is the cause really wasn't important here... JCMach1 Jul 2024 #151

I'm sorry, but I must have missed that diagnosis Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #154

Not a doctor, but what has been described since he stepped down JCMach1 Jul 2024 #155

Thge massive failure Zeitghost Jul 2024 #116

Yep. edisdead Jul 2024 #117

It was his decision...he as much as said so when he said for the good of the country and his party PortTack Jul 2024 #148

The number one motivator? Defeating Trump. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #156

Time for unity. Time to stop publicly crying that Biden is not our candidate. Goodheart Jul 2024 #119

It was neither planned nor a failure Sympthsical Jul 2024 #136

when i personally find myself in the shoulda, coulda, woulda in anything about myself, about life, what somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #127

To be honest claudette Jul 2024 #132

Same....As much as I didn't want to see it...very sad PortTack Jul 2024 #146

I know claudette Jul 2024 #147

Whatever. tavernier Jul 2024 #134

Unless you're a DC insider, I don't think you really know, do you? Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #140

The mass public pants-shitting over a bad debate was terrible form. D23MIURG23 Jul 2024 #164