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getagrip_already

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8. Trends are only valid if they dont change their turnout models
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:36 PM
Aug 2024

But they are constantly changing those, and they should.

But in reality, they have no way to know who, or in what numbers, will show up at the polls.

Legitimate pollsters lose a lot of sleep over this.

Will more young woman turn out? More white men? More blacks/hispanics? More young voters? Etc, etc.

Changes in those model inputs will change the outcome of a poll.

Are they changing them based on recent enthusiasm, or keeping pre-kamala ratios?

Are rasmusen like pollsters going to lean more towards a red wave?

We dont know. We do know they can easily impact results that will impact trends.

So dont be shocked if the trends change.

All that said, im much happier with good numbers and trends than bad, i just know that can change.

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I believe the enthusiasm, and I think the shortened campaign season is really appealing to voters Walleye Aug 2024 #1
Note: averages are not the same as trends Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #2
The polling average is trending, and individual polls themselves are also trending, in Harris's favor RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #4
Always ColinC Aug 2024 #3
Also, while I would argue polling averages are more accurate VMA131Marine Aug 2024 #5
There's no fixed window of time that you have to use for polling averages RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #10
That's why I say they are a lagging indicator. VMA131Marine Aug 2024 #18
THANK YOU !!! Rubyshoo Aug 2024 #6
LFG RedSpartan Aug 2024 #7
Trends are only valid if they dont change their turnout models getagrip_already Aug 2024 #8
It's highly unlikely that the strong positive trend we're seeing is a whole bunch of separate pollsters... RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #14
Im not saying that.. getagrip_already Aug 2024 #16
People tend to trust polls that reinforce their internal biases and reject those that go against them... WarGamer Aug 2024 #9
I personally don't do that, which is why I was getting pretty damned scared... RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #11
Basically polling now is the same as it was pre-debate WarGamer Aug 2024 #12
The same? Where do you see that? RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #15
I'm saying that before the debate, it was a 50/50 race with some polls showing Biden ahead. WarGamer Aug 2024 #17
Fair enough RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #19
Eh Cosmocat Aug 2024 #20
yes, i only look at trends, everything else is just noise. nt ImNotGod Aug 2024 #13
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