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Hamlette

(15,549 posts) Thu Aug 8, 2024, 11:32 PM Aug 2024

Don't call her Kamala, call her Harris. Or VP Harris. [View all]

Everyone refers to Donald Trump as Trump and Kamala Harris as Kamala. It is dismissive.

When I started practicing law in 1976 I was one of the first women in the courts. The judges called the men Mr. So and So and they called me by my first name. I pulled my favorite judge aside and told him it bugged me. He was kind and recognized it was dismissive and no judge in the district ever did it again (he told them all).

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Don't call her Kamala, call her Harris. Or VP Harris. [View all] Hamlette Aug 2024 OP

Agree... 2naSalit Aug 2024 #1

I refer to him as Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Aug 2024 #2

Similar here, except he is "that fucking guy". madinmaryland Aug 2024 #63

She is distributing campaign signs that say "Kamala" BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #3

Yeah. Another clear difference TommyT139 Aug 2024 #4

Cool. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #18

the yard signs say harris walz. mopinko Aug 2024 #70

Some do BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #71

the 1s in the official store do. mopinko Aug 2024 #75

Harris, herself, sells Kamala gear. Ms. Toad Aug 2024 #5

actually, i looked at the store the other day, mopinko Aug 2024 #25

Why do you get to override their choice Ms. Toad Aug 2024 #56

if they hire me, they're hiring my judgement. mopinko Aug 2024 #67

There's standards, but how an individual chooses to be identified shouldn't be up for Ms. Toad Aug 2024 #78

i'm not telling them how to identify themselves. mopinko Aug 2024 #80

If presenting themselves mean altering how they identify themselves to the world Ms. Toad Aug 2024 #84

i also advise them not to wear certain colors, and help them pick their headshots. mopinko Aug 2024 #87

Those are all marketing, without changing identity. Ms. Toad Aug 2024 #88

yeah, i'm done here. mopinko Aug 2024 #89

What is disrespectful by calling her vp Harris???? dsp3000 Aug 2024 #6

Nothing. The OP does suggest VP Harris question everything Aug 2024 #14

I think its up to her and she seems to be behind her first name being used. Its an inclusive use of a beautiful first ImNotGod Aug 2024 #7

it's how she is branding her campaign ... taking advantage of having an unusual (for many) name nt msongs Aug 2024 #8

Studies show most humans love being called by their first name.. Imallin4Joe Aug 2024 #9

Kamala is endearing like "Joe". But I think it depends on the context JI7 Aug 2024 #10

Oh please. Abolishinist Aug 2024 #11

lol... I was going to say.. I call her both Cha Aug 2024 #19

Haha, that ForgedCrank Aug 2024 #77

IMO, it's based on clarity not necessarily gender ecstatic Aug 2024 #12

Same with Pelosi. The only exception was Hilary for obvious reasons question everything Aug 2024 #13

Shades of "Trump versus Hillary"... regnaD kciN Aug 2024 #15

Kamala Kamala Kamala BWdem4life Aug 2024 #16

Kamala!! Kamala!! Kamala!! Bucky Aug 2024 #32

I agree. Many people won't take her as seriously if called by her first name. nt pnwmom Aug 2024 #17

Her campaign sells merchandise using just "Kamala" Kaleva Aug 2024 #20

I think it's up to Kamala herself to decide that Kaleva Aug 2024 #21

She's using the name Kamala on some of the campaign gear she's selling. Elessar Zappa Aug 2024 #22

more of it says harris or madam vp. mopinko Aug 2024 #26

Indicating she likes both 🤷🏻‍♀️ AkFemDem Aug 2024 #62

indicating someone on the campaign gets it. mopinko Aug 2024 #69

Yes. Right now she doesn't care what she is called as long as people vote for her. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #41

Yes, I absolutely hate the "first name" candidate schtick Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #23

Excellent point! HeartsCanHope Aug 2024 #24

No, it's not dismissive, at least not here. Patton French Aug 2024 #27

Kamala is a beautiful name BeyondGeography Aug 2024 #28

It is unique and distinctive. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #42

It's terrible how people feel so much familiarity and affection for our candidate Bucky Aug 2024 #29

it's a cultural thing, which is this country IS disrespect for female candidates. mopinko Aug 2024 #81

Words don't convey the same everywhere, GreenWave Aug 2024 #30

I almost always refer to Joe as "Joe". captain queeg Aug 2024 #31

And then look how they treated him! Bucky Aug 2024 #38

Yep, I've referred him as "Joe" here often. Xavier Breath Aug 2024 #92

She passes out signs at her rallies that say KAMALA. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #33

hillary did it almost exclusively. mopinko Aug 2024 #83

Optimism is your friend, Mo! madaboutharry Aug 2024 #85

oh i do too. mopinko Aug 2024 #86

I agree, the same happened to Hillary. Passages Aug 2024 #34

I mean, was it dismissive referring to Joe as Joe? Cosmocat Aug 2024 #35

I totally see your point FullySupportDems Aug 2024 #36

It rolls off the tongue nicely though. Tommy Carcetti Aug 2024 #37

How do you feel about just calling her "Mrs. Emhoff"? Bucky Aug 2024 #39

Nailed it! MineralMan Aug 2024 #50

Your personal situation was completely different. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #40

Great points Doc Sportello Aug 2024 #46

Yes. She is trying to win an election. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #48

I keep getting emails from Kamala HQ. Ace Rothstein Aug 2024 #43

I tend to disagree. People call her Kamala because they connect with her, they like her and they Vinca Aug 2024 #44

Don't call him Ike....It's 'I Like General Eisenhower' prodigitalson Aug 2024 #45

I love Kamala! nt LexVegas Aug 2024 #47

El Conquistador MichMan Aug 2024 #49

Depends on the situation. JohnSJ Aug 2024 #51

i always referred to Joe and Joe... samnsara Aug 2024 #52

I like Ike, Barack, Joe, Bill, Kamala (I didn't actually, but great name like Ike arlyellowdog Aug 2024 #53

No Renew Deal Aug 2024 #54

I'll disagree. It's a term of endearment. I also called Biden "Joe." Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #55

I frequently calles Biden Joe. I like Kamala. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #57

Are we not supposed to call him Joe either? jcgoldie Aug 2024 #58

Call her Chuck, if you want. Just vote for her. nt Gore1FL Aug 2024 #59

. TheProle Aug 2024 #60

The opposite AkFemDem Aug 2024 #61

Yes, I'm working hard to not call her by her first name. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #64

Link AkFemDem Aug 2024 #65

No. Jirel Aug 2024 #66

Disagree. Kamala. n/t elocs Aug 2024 #68

That's been my approach, and I'll stick with it, but if Harris herself is happy with Kamala... RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #72

Calling Kamala Harris, KAMALA ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #73

Intent matters MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2024 #74

Reminiscent of political correctness taken to the extreme. A lot of people we need to reach hate that. mobeau69 Aug 2024 #76

Don't call her Kamala, call her Vice President Harris ironman99 Aug 2024 #79

Tell this to the people behind her holding KAMALA signs lame54 Aug 2024 #82

Ummm..... ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #90

I've always called TFG The Donald because that is what New Yorkers have always called him. Raftergirl Aug 2024 #91

Way ahead of you. That's a tough sell on this board, though. Iggo Aug 2024 #93

I think we need less nitpicking about language. D23MIURG23 Aug 2024 #94