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Retrograde

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12. Could have been a status thing
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 03:15 PM
Aug 2024

Dark,vibrant colors are more expensive to produce since they require specialized knowledge and expensive materials. Natural dyes on wool and linen give muted colors unless you take extra steps. From my experiments, madder produces soft corals and pinks, but I've read that if you use a more complex process you can get Turkey Red, which is a vivid red. It's a multi-step process that included rotted sheep manure and rancid oil IIRC, and was produced far from population centers. A lot of bright colors required toxic metals or other chemicals, such as Prussian Blue, or the arsenic salts used for some greens. The colors would last (provided they weren't exposed to too much light or harsh treatment (such as washing with lye soaps) but they cost more.

I think that people then and now just like strong colors. A few years ago I saw a museum show that tried to recreate the "real" look of ancient Greek statues, based on what remained of the pigment on the statues and contemporary descriptions. Garish barely starts to describe the results! So it may also be the fashion of the times - I remember the mid-60s when it became more acceptable for men to wear something other than black, gray, brown, and navy, and psychedelic clothing was everywhere! There's a certain shade, Nile Green, that screams 1930s - it was widely used for a decade or so, then vanished for a few decades.

An out-of-print book I recommend is Barbara Brachman's "Clues in the Calicos", which talks about colors in US cotton textiles in the 19th and 20th centuries.

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Blue! MLAA Aug 2024 #1
Your husband was very diplomatic. PikaBlue Aug 2024 #4
Same here, but with all colors, LOL Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #20
If people, probably mostly men were to observe the differences different shades there for lipstick and nail polish LiberalFighter Aug 2024 #28
Cavalry Blue pwb Aug 2024 #2
Which blue? PikaBlue Aug 2024 #3
It is similar to the blue D U uses up top. pwb Aug 2024 #19
That's gorgeous! PikaBlue Aug 2024 #23
This post reminds me of a huge debate I had with my mother LostOne4Ever Aug 2024 #5
Color Names PikaBlue Aug 2024 #6
Color, dyes, and pigments are a complex Retrograde Aug 2024 #9
Historical Colors PikaBlue Aug 2024 #11
Could have been a status thing Retrograde Aug 2024 #12
Thank you PikaBlue Aug 2024 #16
The movie was excellent as well. bif Aug 2024 #17
Status PikaBlue Aug 2024 #25
I have Martha Washington Rose JustAnotherGen Aug 2024 #27
Williamsburg here PikaBlue Aug 2024 #29
Our HPC is completely flexible JustAnotherGen Aug 2024 #30
It must be so gratifying to lovingly restore such an historical home. PikaBlue Aug 2024 #31
I'm reading a great book on the very subject bif Aug 2024 #13
Thank you! PikaBlue Aug 2024 #15
I've come to believe we can look at the very sample piece of cloth and yet actually see the color differently. MLAA Aug 2024 #18
There is an online "color intelligence" test where you have to Ilsa Aug 2024 #21
Cool, I will look for it. MLAA Aug 2024 #26
Orchid. Sparkly Aug 2024 #32
Yes, both my brother and my hubby are color blind to a certain extent senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #7
The Crayola box of eight PikaBlue Aug 2024 #8
Green's sort of like blue Retrograde Aug 2024 #10
I remember 20-30 years ago reading about a man that got in hot water with his HOA... Wounded Bear Aug 2024 #14
It's possible Walz has mild colorblindness. Ilsa Aug 2024 #22
Thats quite common. PikaBlue Aug 2024 #24
Baby blue, robin egg blue, royal blue, teal blue, corn flower blue, azure blue, sapphire blue, aqua blue, turquoise blue Bucky Aug 2024 #33
All in the eye of the beholder? 😸 PikaBlue Aug 2024 #34
Ha! Bucky Aug 2024 #35
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