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Martin Eden

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20. Small states already have a disproportionately LOUD voice in the Senate

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2024, 05:28 PM

Sep 2024

Both these states have 2 Senators:
Population 580,000 in Wyoming
Population 39,000,000 in California

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Defenders of the Electoral College say that it protects small states from big states by giving them a voice. Ask them... [View all] Yavin4 Sep 2024 OP

Does anyone actually defend the EC? Who? maxsolomon Sep 2024 #1

There are, in fact, EC defenders dpibel Sep 2024 #4

Defenders or cynics? maxsolomon Sep 2024 #11

Serious defenders dpibel Sep 2024 #33

You are right My Friend BOSSHOG Sep 2024 #38

They exist. Yavin4 Sep 2024 #6

I used to defend the EC as being the last bulwark against the election of a despotic rabble rouser, thesquanderer Sep 2024 #35

Dukakis stopped at an airport in ND fargone Sep 2024 #2

The EC isn't going anywhere soon. Kaleva Sep 2024 #3

There will be the second Texas votes blue in a presidential election bbrady42 Sep 2024 #7

At some point soon, the Democratic party is going to have to take on the issue. Yavin4 Sep 2024 #8

Exactly. Republicans would have to get absolutely wiped out in order to repeal the electoral college. D23MIURG23 Sep 2024 #50

Maybe 2008 Polybius Sep 2024 #57

That's true, there are still way too many republicans in Congress. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #13

There's support to eliminate the EC but not enough to overcome opposition to that Kaleva Sep 2024 #43

Yes, there are too many republicans in Congress, they would never give up their unfair electoral advantage. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #45

I live in Texas and no one campaigns here anymore MagickMuffin Sep 2024 #5

The majority of eligible Texans do vote. former9thward Sep 2024 #22

How many are not registered to vote. Maybe they think thee's no point in it. SharonAnn Sep 2024 #41

I don't know but one can say that about any state. former9thward Sep 2024 #48

30 million people live in Texas so about 12 million aren't registered. n/t D23MIURG23 Sep 2024 #51

Clinton Rebl2 Sep 2024 #9

During their primaries? Yavin4 Sep 2024 #14

During the presidential campaign Rebl2 Sep 2024 #44

He was in Kansas City October 2008 Lulu KC Sep 2024 #64

39 in 2008, 12 in 2016, 1 in 2020 TheProle Sep 2024 #10

So 9 states had None. Six states had just one. Just three states had more than one event in 2008. Yavin4 Sep 2024 #18

Okay TheProle Sep 2024 #21

It's vindication bc the most visits by presidential campaigns happened 16 years ago. Yavin4 Sep 2024 #23

IMO, small states get an equal voice anciano Sep 2024 #12

Bingo. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #16

Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 2024 #27

The Electoral College only effects the Presidential race.... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #15

Fix the House size Jerry2144 Sep 2024 #17

Exactly, if this is done Bettie Sep 2024 #24

Inexact house representation is not the biggest problem. It's the adding in the senate seats unblock Sep 2024 #53

But that takes a Constitution change Jerry2144 Sep 2024 #55

Fair point. Though it has similar political challenges. unblock Sep 2024 #59

I like the idea of Jerry2144 Sep 2024 #62

Small states is a euphemism for Slave States NNguyenMD Sep 2024 #19

At this point, the states that have the most out-sized power in the electoral college are not former confederate states. TomSlick Sep 2024 #40

Not exactly. ShazzieB Sep 2024 #46

Small states already have a disproportionately LOUD voice in the Senate Martin Eden Sep 2024 #20

How are Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and maybe sometimes/used to be Florida and Ohio TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #25

Maybe someone needs to work on a constitutional amendment MichMan Sep 2024 #26

A heavy lift but it needs to be done. paleotn Sep 2024 #30

Try Vermont. Candidates never, ever come here. Obvious reasons but still. paleotn Sep 2024 #28

They sometimes show up in California, but Retrograde Sep 2024 #54

At the time of the Founding, J_William_Ryan Sep 2024 #29

Agreed. And the House districts of 775,000 IIRC, no matter what state... brush Sep 2024 #31

Those same small red states oldmanlynn Sep 2024 #32

I bet Cherokee100 Sep 2024 #34

The fatal flaw in the Constitution zipplewrath Sep 2024 #36

The EC is way out of line now moose65 Sep 2024 #37

Try KS! They don't call it "flyover" country for nothing! slightlv Sep 2024 #39

Electoral College, should get the boot the first year President Harris republianmushroom Sep 2024 #42

Presidents have no say iin whether there is an Electoral College or not. Locutusofborg Sep 2024 #47

A state is not a person AncientOfDays Sep 2024 #49

Step back JustAnotherGen Sep 2024 #52

It is forefathers trick kansasobama Sep 2024 #56

GE candidates have seriously campaigned in Indiana, Missouri, and New Mexico Renew Deal Sep 2024 #58

I will never understand why, in this electronic age, politicians need to go to each travelingthrulife Sep 2024 #60

One person, one vote. The United States should try it some time instead of giving votes to empty acreage. Ping Tung Sep 2024 #61

The Electoral College is bullshit. Not ONE other country has anything like it. hawkeye21 Sep 2024 #63