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pat_k

(11,527 posts)
2. Unhumans - Christian Nationalism - Christian Fascism
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:52 PM
Sep 2024

It is beyond my ability to wrap my head around where we are at this juncture. The unimaginable 30 years ago is being normalized and is gaining footholds in the mainstream.

The book "Unhumans" -- the far, far, far right dystopian vision of fascism saving the world -- is a prime example too.

Unhumans

Forward by Bannon,
Blurbed by J.D. Vance, Don Jr., and Tucker Carlson, among others.

Opinion
Michelle Goldberg
JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman
Aug. 5, 2024

Paywall free link to NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.xGes.1_ONuyrQ-M2p&smid=url-share

. . .
“Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.

As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, “great men of means” are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans,” write Posobiec and Lisec.

One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat: “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.”

Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6 insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.

Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there’s long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it’s extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
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I am mystified that the title of this book and the author isn't being spread as far and wide as the danger of project 2025.

Unhumans goes so much farther down the dystopian authoritarian path.

By blurbing this book, Vance, Carlson, and Don Jr. are endorsing the glorification of the reign of murdering facists like Franco and Pinochet nd endorsing a vision of DT/Vance leading a similar purge.

We can keep the focus on the message of hope and joy, but we CANNOT ignore the implication of this book and how utterly horrifying the premise and "solutions" offered are.

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'Something Far Worse Than MAGA' [View all] applegrove Sep 2024 OP
I've warned the good Christians we've always been told about. There has never been a clearer with us or against us brewens Sep 2024 #1
There are Christians fighting the cancer that is Christian Nationalism pat_k Sep 2024 #3
I've seen him. Might be too little too late though. n/t brewens Sep 2024 #4
Might be, but it gives me a little hope. (nt) pat_k Sep 2024 #9
they are all nuts Skittles Sep 2024 #7
Do you include the following religious people in that sweeping statement? wnylib Sep 2024 #49
Thank you, pat k Hekate Sep 2024 #29
All the good Jesus stuff ..Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, his opinion, man JanMichael Sep 2024 #38
Unhumans - Christian Nationalism - Christian Fascism pat_k Sep 2024 #2
They long for Gilead NickB79 Sep 2024 #5
Blessed be the fruit. Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #20
Fruit of the loon. markodochartaigh Sep 2024 #22
I think bdamomma Sep 2024 #34
When I started reading The Handmaid's Tale, way back around 1984 or so, the first thought I had was... mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #42
My 21 yr old lab intern had no idea the Hulu series was based on a book NickB79 Sep 2024 #54
I wish those men would buy an island and Ilsa Sep 2024 #6
I'm sure all the magats would (will?) be happy to jump onto this new train to hell. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #8
What an amazing thread. Thank you. Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #10
Yeah. No. GB_RN Sep 2024 #11
Education, knowledge, that's what killed this before. That's why these people hate education, want to get rid of it. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #43
Whoever you're describing is in no way representative of the Catholic Church or Pope Francis as ancianita Sep 2024 #12
Great information, ancianita.. Permanut Sep 2024 #23
"Lesser of two evils" Francis? dpibel Sep 2024 #27
Strange how a Jesuit can't see the difference and says it's up to you to decide. ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #32
Not sure what you mean by "it." ancianita Sep 2024 #51
And what happens when he dies? The next pope doesn't have to follow the current pope's policies. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #44
Popes don't issue "policies." ancianita Sep 2024 #53
These are Catholics, I believe, who have sold their souls slightlv Sep 2024 #13
Considering the vitriol I've seen today relayerbob Sep 2024 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Sep 2024 #15
That war has been fought before... Johnyawl Sep 2024 #19
And Northern Ireland relayerbob Sep 2024 #36
In Amarillo a half century ago markodochartaigh Sep 2024 #25
Yep. Nothing new here, really relayerbob Sep 2024 #35
"God speaks to me."- Mikey Johnson rubbersole Sep 2024 #16
Franco was a mass murderer. But MAGA will support political violence too, if we let them struggle4progress Sep 2024 #17
As noted by Michelle Goldberg in re: the book "Unhumans" pat_k Sep 2024 #40
Only the name has changed Warpy Sep 2024 #18
Wait until they run into the Baptists azureblue Sep 2024 #21
Been there, did that Warpy Sep 2024 #30
We never had any religious persons coming around to our schools. Not where I grew up. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #45
The USSC got rid of it by the early 60s Warpy Sep 2024 #55
Madeline Murray O'hair was my first hero UpInArms Sep 2024 #50
Bertrand Russell was mine Warpy Sep 2024 #56
I was mercilessly teased for being catholic here by the baptists in school ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #33
it's called NRx or Dark Enlightenment ideology by Yarvin who Vance admires AlexSFCA Sep 2024 #24
The media isn't going to cover it. The owners of the MSM are in on it, every bit of it. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #46
Just look at the Supreme Court progressoid Sep 2024 #26
If you include Gorsuch as Anglicanism/Catholicism. . . pat_k Sep 2024 #41
It's not by accident. I sometimes wonder if JFK was supposed to be bringing this stuff to fruition, and wouldn't. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #48
Then move to Hungary! The majority here like democracy PortTack Sep 2024 #28
Only one Catholic signed the Declaration of Independence PikaBlue Sep 2024 #31
So, super religious men Bettie Sep 2024 #37
Can You Tell The Difference? BlueWavePsych Sep 2024 #39
I don't think what this describes has much support in the US JI7 Sep 2024 #47
I think it's the Christian dominionist. I think Bill Barr is Catholic and beleives in that dominion over ALL bullshit Hotler Sep 2024 #52
Fking religion ruins everything. EVERYTHING!!! OMGWTF Sep 2024 #57
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