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In reply to the discussion: Is male on male violence a feminist issue? [View all]johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Specialized advocacy groups are necessary.
Feminists are advocates for the advancement of women.
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) is an advocacy group for the advancement of colored people like it says.
The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) is an advocacy group for the advancement of the image of Intersexed people (also known as LGBTQ).
Unions are advocates for the advancement of workers.
Focused groups based on protecting & securing the rights of disempowered portions of the populace are absolutely necessary in this society. A More Perfect Union couldn't form without resistance to a powerful group's tyranny.
This country is based on Equality under the law regardless of how poorly it has lived up to its advertising.
Feminism is concentrated on the issues of women as it SHOULD be.
Male-on-male violence is a Masculinist issue specifically & a Humanist issue broadly.
Being a humanist issue & given the fact that men don't exist without women/women don't exist without men, Feminists should keep tabs on the issue under a humanist lens.
After all Humanism is the supergroup that contains Feminism, Masculinism, Colored People's rights, LGBTQ rights, Worker's rights.
Because of this Humanist supercategory Feminists should have some concern over Worker's rights, LGBTQ rights, Colored People's rights, AS WELL AS Men's rights.
This is an ecology.
What affects one will eventually affect all.
Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.
Every action has a reaction.
I'm a Black man who can recognize that there can be injustices towards Whites.
Women should be able to recognize that there can be injustices towards Men.
As a Black man it does me no disservice to seek justice for Whites even though my people have been oppressed by Whites.
EVEN IF Blacks STILL remain under certain forms of oppression from Whites, I don't feel good celebrating something wrong done to a White just because there's a long history of things being done wrong to Blacks.
Women suffered under much oppression over millenia but is it right to dismiss an injustice towards a man because of that history of injustice towards women?
As a Black man I recognize it was a certain number of Whites who corrected their unjust system to recognize Blacks as equals.
Women must remember it was a certain number of Men who corrected their unjust system to recognize Women as equals.
As a result, we're probably gonna get our first female President in 2016.
(doggone it you better run Hillary!)
The disconnect & dismissal of another's rights is why I get pissed at Blacks who dismiss the cause of Gays.
ESPECIALLY after what we went through & are still going through in some cases (RIP Trayvon).
I'm not Gay or Bi or Trans or none of those other various initials that make up the LGBTQ.
Doesn't mean I'm callous to their suffering.
I'm not Female.
Doesn't mean I'm callous to their suffering.
Men suffer under other men. Men have oppressed other men.
Men suffer too even if some of that group also oppressed women.
And yes sometimes men suffer under women.
It's time to talk about these injustices with the same dedication as we talked about the injustices towards women.
I'm in agreement with the poster named lumberjack_jeff that there needs to be a Men's Rights section in this site that focuses on injustices against men & boys.
We gotta stop playing Kindergarten Sandbox with these gender issues. Boys Club here & Girls Club there.
Real progress comes ultimately from a Humanist perspective that seeks to give all members of society a fair shot.
To adjust that society in ways where every member gets to shine.
Civilization's ultimate goal is Utopia.
And if we can't get that, we can at least get the next best thing.
If we don't care about that, just go back to the old way & end this American experiment right now.
John Lucas
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