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JohnSJ

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27. 2016 was a direct result of what comey did, and the MSM 11 days before the election having every right wing pundit
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:34 AM
Nov 2024

across their outlets pushing the LIE that the email investigation was reopened.

Late Friday, the weekend before the general election, Comey quietly came out and said there was nothing new found on the laptop, and nothing to justify reopening the case. The press barely covered it, but the damage was done by then. Hillary had 4-5 point lead before Comey, and that was completely erased after Comey.

The willful ignoring of that event in 2016 by the media and the pollsters to push the myth that the republicans were "under-represented" in 2016, to justify that they now add "weighting factors" to account for "under-represented" republicans, is nonsense.

That being said, I honestly do not think anyone has any idea how this will turnout. In a normal world, with all of trump's hate, lies, bigotry, he wouldn't even stand a chance, but this is no longer a normal world, where trump and his racism, sexism, and bigotry has been normalized with the help of social media platforms and the MSM.

The biggest issue I think that has never been answered is how to account for people who do not answer calls from numbers they do not recognize because of all the scams, and I suspect that is even more prevalent now than it was in 2016, and represents a significant number.

I also think there are a good number of people who are not to eager to provide information which some may consider private to a caller who claims to be a "legitimate" pollster. I don't anyway.



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You'll be sorry you asked ColinC Nov 2024 #1
South Carolina too Tribetime Nov 2024 #3
This is a little too optimistic IMHO FakeNoose Nov 2024 #8
From your keyboard to all the Divine Ones. May it be so irisblue Nov 2024 #18
Maybe I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but I think she's done the campaign job necessary to convince the lees1975 Nov 2024 #2
Interesting how the 2 "looks bleak" voters have account registrations within 20 minutes of each other on June 28 stumpysbear Nov 2024 #4
I am nervously optimistic. TomSlick Nov 2024 #5
ME too Jerry2144 Nov 2024 #7
Very Confident lrymcqueen Nov 2024 #6
Yep - these are the same things I've been saying since the beginning of the year FakeNoose Nov 2024 #16
Harris will walk away with this leftstreet Nov 2024 #9
You didn't really capture my position. qwlauren35 Nov 2024 #10
I'm the same. beaglelover Nov 2024 #12
I agree. missaj Nov 2024 #19
Me in 2016: "Trump will never in a million years set foot in the White House", SO ...... I'm nervous as hell. groundloop Nov 2024 #21
I don't think it's that bleak. qwlauren35 Nov 2024 #22
2016 was a direct result of what comey did, and the MSM 11 days before the election having every right wing pundit JohnSJ Nov 2024 #27
I'm very cautious. In 2016 I was EllieBC Nov 2024 #11
This:🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊 oasis Nov 2024 #13
Hopeful iemanja Nov 2024 #14
I'd go with "don't know what to think" right now... durablend Nov 2024 #15
Confident but still nervous AF. Initech Nov 2024 #17
THIS Mike 03 Nov 2024 #28
270-280 Electoral Votes Polybius Nov 2024 #20
I havent looked at the map. LeftInTX Nov 2024 #25
For those who are haunted by 2016. lrymcqueen Nov 2024 #23
I "give up" if we have another 2016 LeftInTX Nov 2024 #24
I'm going with absolute certainty intrepidity Nov 2024 #26
I have to admit, I'm really, really nervous RazorbackExpat Nov 2024 #29
I am very confident that VP Harris/Gov Waltz will be the next President/VP of the USA this election. I will be akbacchus_BC Nov 2024 #30
Generational change election... Feels like 1992 JCMach1 Nov 2024 #31
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