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In reply to the discussion: Add my "what went wrong" take to the pile [View all]Festivito
(13,807 posts)148. YES. We hit 1% with volunteers once in 6 months.  They hit 90% twice a day -- at least.
        The media won't say it.  They want to believe they're effective.  
They're not.  
Mass distribution is not.  DU is mass distribution. It's not. 
Facts are where masses agree.  
Facts don't matter in the face of repetition followed by more and more things being repeated. More things that can be kept in mind all at once. 
Even when our best volunteers access someone's brain.  That brain gets deluged again and again with more scary stuff. 
We came to laser focused machine gun fight each carrying a single, albeit very nice looking, pocket knife. 
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        Rove was also author Redmap, the Republican Party plan to use gerrymandering for permanent control of government.
        Lonestarblue
        Nov 2024
        #64
      
        
        I definitely agree that curated spaces and echo chambers have contributed to her loss.
        orange jar
        Nov 2024
        #6
      
        
        & it's reached almost insurmountable proportions. According to canvassers, the misinformation this election was insane,
        Native
        Nov 2024
        #18
      
        
        I don't know about that. A lot of people are saying it's pandered too much to the left/progressives of the party.
        Native
        Nov 2024
        #29
      
        
        sure, i cant remember them all, but one for sure that was mentioned was the transgender surgeries for inmates.
        Native
        Nov 2024
        #93
      
        
        She REALLY should have hit-back on the transgender "prison surgery" thing,
        Jack Valentino
        Nov 2024
        #134
      
        
        When Biden made sure they got COVID relief funds, he should have put his name on it like Trump did.
        summer_in_TX
        Nov 2024
        #119
      
        
        Those differences in voting by income are all small. It's not a big factor.
        muriel_volestrangler
        Nov 2024
        #123
      
        
        I think the income voting differences are mostly related to education (which trends to result in higher income),
        deurbano
        Nov 2024
        #145
      
        
        The signs were there. Biden has been a great president. The economy is doing great. Yet most people don't agree.
        Doodley
        Nov 2024
        #8
      
        
        I'm sure it did. It was an important part of their campaign. Our household of two received a dozen direct mail
        Doodley
        Nov 2024
        #15
      
        
        If a supernatural being saved Trump from death, it was LUCIFER and not God.
        Jack Valentino
        Nov 2024
        #136
      
        
        And yet, the Dems didn't continually publish the positive news, buy ads, etc.  That's on us.
        SharonAnn
        Nov 2024
        #17
      
        
        Good point. Trump maximized the racist, homophobic, transphobic, mysogynist vote.  Kamala had to overcome that.
        Doodley
        Nov 2024
        #13
      
        
        Along those same lines people expected prices to actually drop to pre-Covid levels
        groundloop
        Nov 2024
        #38
      
        
        Finally, someone explaining how targeting works. We're an old group and very defensive to boot. Explanations like this
        Native
        Nov 2024
        #16
      
        
        If no one's told you lately that you're a genius, EarlG, elbow them in the ribs (gently but definitely).
        jaxexpat
        Nov 2024
        #19
      
        
        Earl, what about a small siloed section of DU where the rules are relaxed somewhat?
        intrepidity
        Nov 2024
        #160
      
        
        We just got some stunning family news from some in-laws: almost the whole younger gen voted Trump
        Hekate
        Nov 2024
        #33
      
        
        My Wife and I have been discussing this exactly as you have described for a couple of days now.  I agree completely with
        marked50
        Nov 2024
        #46
      
        
        The TOP (Trump's Oleaginous Party) can't help but fuck with Social Security and Obamacare.
        LudwigPastorius
        Nov 2024
        #49
      
        
        I agree with your analysis. I still believe that racism and sexism played a role but so did social media
        tulipsandroses
        Nov 2024
        #54
      
        
        For me, to break through the information bubble, it came down to critical thinking (education)
        ffr
        Nov 2024
        #59
      
        
        I agree, EarlG.  I've seen discussions of this on Twitter.  From Asha Rangappa this morning:
        highplainsdem
        Nov 2024
        #85
      
        
        Thought-provoking OP.  I still think we've got a lot of folks who just won't vote for a woman,
        TBF
        Nov 2024
        #87
      
        
        Read a great thread by a Brit about the analogies to Brexit on Twitter today.
        summer_in_TX
        Nov 2024
        #116
      
        
        The incremental, stealth takeover by oligarchs is now open and in its final race to the finish line.
        Hermit-The-Prog
        Nov 2024
        #117
      
        
        All incumbents across the world have lost vote share. The Biden to Harris loss was one of the smallest.
        muriel_volestrangler
        Nov 2024
        #124
      
        
        "Algorithmic microtargeting". Yes. The microtargeting supports Inconsistent views and helps to dissuade real-life convos
        lostnfound
        Nov 2024
        #125
      
        
        If buyer's remorse doesn't set in over the next 4 years for a significant number of people who voted for Trump,
        Martin68
        Nov 2024
        #139
      
        
        People here keep thinking we'll have free and fair elections that will be winnable in 2026 and 2028.
        Efilroft Sul
        Nov 2024
        #140
      
        
        We're in for scary times, and the old rules -- the old laws -- won't necessarily be applicable any more.
        Efilroft Sul
        Nov 2024
        #147
      
        
        YES. We hit 1% with volunteers once in 6 months.  They hit 90% twice a day -- at least.
        Festivito
        Nov 2024
        #148
      
        
        Mis and disinformation coupled with lack of perspective is huge. But this was a change election.
        andym
        Nov 2024
        #150
      
        
        A tech perspective. Great points. It seems like an application of the Facebook effect in 2016
        underpants
        Nov 2024
        #152
      
        
        People almost always bleme the Executive branch for their troubles and complaints.
        Ping Tung
        Nov 2024
        #156
      
        
        I just had a technician tell me Trump would stop the wars because he was strong
        True Blue American
        Nov 2024
        #165
      
        
        Just dropping back in to say thanks again for your thoughtful comments in November
        Hekate
        Jan 2025
        #166
      
  