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In reply to the discussion: WHY did we lose? [View all]

mountain grammy

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64. I was sick listening to this speech
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 12:10 PM
Nov 2024

I remember it well.. After 8 years of Reagan, who actually gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented human beings, followed by Bush who did ?? we finally elected Bill Clintion, a Democrat. I was so happy. then this speech. That's when I really started worrying about the party I loved, while right wing radio was raging and saying much of the same, and fox news was just a year away.

I remember thinking, he can say all this, he can pander to the right wing, but they will always demonize and hate us.

Welcome to DU and thanks for trying to keep us honest.

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WHY did we lose? [View all] BootinUp Nov 2024 OP
The media sakabatou Nov 2024 #1
This! FalloutShelter Nov 2024 #7
Trump's win is still paying off for the media, his cabinet choices make good news content. dem4decades Nov 2024 #51
I will NEVER forgive the media. BigDemVoter Nov 2024 #118
I'd say the viral spread of misinformation. n/t femmedem Nov 2024 #2
A huge factor but not directly in our control. nt BootinUp Nov 2024 #3
So do nothing? MaineBlueBear Nov 2024 #52
In todays media environment BootinUp Nov 2024 #69
You didn't ask what could have been done differently. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #106
Simple: Lost touch with the voters Sympthsical Nov 2024 #4
Sounds simple. BootinUp Nov 2024 #6
I'm thinking of writing a short essay about it Sympthsical Nov 2024 #20
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I need to consider them longer. nt BootinUp Nov 2024 #31
I don't really disagree that we've lost touch with voters mountain grammy Nov 2024 #33
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I was sick listening to this speech mountain grammy Nov 2024 #64
It's about preserving the white anglo male, anti women and anti minorities power structure GoreWon2000 Nov 2024 #76
Normalization by the MSM, endless unchallenged lies by RW media, the swamp of social media tools NewHendoLib Nov 2024 #5
Yes, but NO answer to that problem is not acceptable. nt BootinUp Nov 2024 #8
As it stands, we have no answer to this problem. It has taken decades and huge money NewHendoLib Nov 2024 #9
If you think about it though, we have beaten these issues before. It was worse this time because: Pandemic. BootinUp Nov 2024 #10
Harris should have run her own race 4th gen blue Nov 2024 #11
RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT Skittles Nov 2024 #13
Hardly relayerbob Nov 2024 #105
MISINFORMATION Skittles Nov 2024 #12
I did not see trans folk as a top exit poll answer. BootinUp Nov 2024 #16
I HEAR IT CONSTANTLY FROM THE REPUKES AROUND ME Skittles Nov 2024 #18
They weren't going to vote for Harris anyway Shrek Nov 2024 #55
PLENTY Skittles Nov 2024 #108
Bad voters, ignorant voters. Women hating going on. Trump evil. Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #14
The Dumbshit vote. The Repub dumbshits who were dazzled by "They're eating the cats".... albacore Nov 2024 #26
Biden got 81 million votes in 2020 while Harris got 73 million votes in 2024 Kennah Nov 2024 #15
I guess you don't like this thread. BootinUp Nov 2024 #19
That number just blows my mind. How?? JanMichael Nov 2024 #32
Biden stepping out so late DeepWinter Nov 2024 #56
THIS. Dulcinea Nov 2024 #91
We lost because the president had a 39% approval rating in exit polls. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2024 #17
I know. I trace it back to the economic pain from the pandemic mostly. nt BootinUp Nov 2024 #21
That's it (fairly or not). Presidential candidates of the same party as the incumbent President, surfered Nov 2024 #27
Trump's awfulness is what made it close. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2024 #29
+1 Shermann Nov 2024 #54
Trump was at 34% toward the end of his first term Zambero Nov 2024 #82
I've been trying to figure it out Tribetime Nov 2024 #22
I like the fact that you are considering all angles. peace. nt BootinUp Nov 2024 #24
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Pizza...Pizza here!! GP6971 Nov 2024 #40
The Unicorn POOP was in Overload. Cha Nov 2024 #44
Don't you ever tire of pizza?? GP6971 Nov 2024 #41
Too Much Unicorn POOP. Cha Nov 2024 #43
It's really a shame that they don't GP6971 Nov 2024 #45
lol.. I saw that. Sounds Cha Nov 2024 #48
Plus not enough time to campaign Polybius Nov 2024 #73
We didn't get as many votes as the other guys. Iggo Nov 2024 #23
I guess you don't like this thread, either. nt BootinUp Nov 2024 #25
The underlying reason is quite simple. Aussie105 Nov 2024 #28
You think he has 51% of the US population voting for a strong man? Nah. Maybe BootinUp Nov 2024 #30
More like 22% of the US population. nt Shermann Nov 2024 #59
I think it is obvious there is no one reason, imo anyway Meowmee Nov 2024 #34
The vote counts was hacked Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #35
Putin and Musk Wicked Blue Nov 2024 #36
When one company is beaten by a rival company, should they say it is the fault of the customers? Should they say Doodley Nov 2024 #37
Media, Bettie Nov 2024 #39
Because we failed to convince the majority of American voters we'd do a better job at what was important to them WarGamer Nov 2024 #42
Of course, but there has to be more to the story. nt BootinUp Nov 2024 #47
What was important to them ? kacekwl Nov 2024 #66
We Didn't DET Nov 2024 #46
51% of voting Americans get their information from propaganda and overt lying sources, including bots and trolls seeking hlthe2b Nov 2024 #49
Right wing propaganda, misogyny, and the economy. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #50
Social media too. Initech Nov 2024 #72
I consider that under the "right wing propaganda" umbrella. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #75
Well, if you watch Fox, they're back to acting like DC is their personal property again. Initech Nov 2024 #79
1996 IRAIIRA Hippasus Nov 2024 #53
I really do not think we did. LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #58
Religion. Mariana Nov 2024 #61
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What does that have to do with my reply? Mariana Nov 2024 #63
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Yes, 58% of Catholics voted for Trump. Mariana Nov 2024 #93
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Your information is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Mariana Nov 2024 #95
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The topic of this thread is "WHY did we lose?" Mariana Nov 2024 #97
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One big reason TFG came into power Mariana Nov 2024 #101
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I don't believe you. Sounds like paranoid persecution complex bullshit thebigidea Nov 2024 #113
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Agree - I think this is the sleeper reason that we haven't focused on TBF Nov 2024 #114
The thing is, it's not a sleeper reason. Mariana Nov 2024 #115
It's amazing to me how few will say the answer BootinUp Nov 2024 #65
Citizens United crazylikafox Nov 2024 #67
We're not ready to elect a woman Arazi Nov 2024 #68
Shudda, coulda, woulda... My guess is that Biden should have not run but supported Harris giving her more time for CTyankee Nov 2024 #70
One of the factors we're overlooking: Isreal / Palestine Initech Nov 2024 #71
Yes, but a smaller factor than the economy, BootinUp Nov 2024 #74
Two things TheFarseer Nov 2024 #77
Lies from the Republican Propaganda Machine Emile Nov 2024 #78
A different view LogDog75 Nov 2024 #80
Inflation was halted, but prices really never came down much.. Omnipresent Nov 2024 #81
And that is why I say pandemic. Just fyi BootinUp Nov 2024 #83
Inflation was a result of the pandemic so... Omnipresent Nov 2024 #84
Sexism and Racism TrunKated Nov 2024 #85
This poll needs more options Babajida Nov 2024 #86
Trump had a four year long, 24-7 media promotion. lees1975 Nov 2024 #87
We lost bc of White voters. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #88
I'm not gonna vote in this poll, but I saw a LOT of pushback regarding Harris' "selection". Hellbound Hellhound Nov 2024 #89
Check your phone's spam folder. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #90
That poll is a drastic oversimplification iemanja Nov 2024 #98
The Right-wing media/billionaires/anti-women/lots and lots of lies. chouchou Nov 2024 #100
Poor options. brush Nov 2024 #102
Because we played the I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2024 #103
4 - Too many ignorant assholes voting relayerbob Nov 2024 #104
I passed, but it's not President Biden BunkieBandit Nov 2024 #107
Too many fucking polls being paid outlandish attention. marble falls Nov 2024 #109
Really??? BootinUp Nov 2024 #117
Really. marble falls Nov 2024 #119
There is a reason we don't see eye to eye, but I don't have a clue what it is. BootinUp Nov 2024 #120
Says the guy who who responded, "Really??". marble falls Nov 2024 #121
Yeah, but you don't get to tell me what to post. So I discarded that immediately, lol. BootinUp Nov 2024 #122
And visa versa. marble falls Nov 2024 #123
Lets do this again some time! BootinUp Nov 2024 #124
Let's not. marble falls Nov 2024 #125
Exactly, its your choice. Make it a good one. BootinUp Nov 2024 #126
Why do we continue to not talk about the number one reason the massive massive misinformation campaign by Trump Russia oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #112
Because voters in some states preferred trump over Harris. Enough of them to elect him. nt Autumn Nov 2024 #116
The election was stolen and we let it happen. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #127
The pandemic.Voters either lost their damn minds or retreated into a daily life bubble. haele Nov 2024 #128
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