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Woodycall

(584 posts)
24. Thank you.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 06:24 PM
Dec 2024

I've been formulating this for quite a while now. I have for years watched and read a tremendous amount of history and history related content. After a while, I couldn't help but see the striking similarities in the motives, goals, organizational structure of governments and movements (including "religious" movements) that were under the control of something other than the democratic will of the people (at least at some level). Be it led by a pharaoh, emperor, king, dictator, president, pope, ayatollah, or even those led by the likes of Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great, et.al., the pattern is always the same it seems. At its least it involves seizing control of a population (maybe a neighborhood in the case of the mob all the way up to a nation like Germany or Italy) and using muscle to extract wealth. At its greatest, it involves that plus, invading neighboring countries to steal their wealth and enslave their people (in one form or another). They all proclaim some noble objective or "ideology" but under closer examination, it becomes pretty obvious that those "noble objectives and ideologies" were in fact, just a smoke-screen for their crimes. In the case of Al Capone, he had Chicago so sewed-up with bought-off judges, prosecutors, and cops, and threats and actual acts of violence, that it could never have "righted" itself on its own. It took the federal government to break his unholy grip. In the case of Germany, Italy, and Japan, it took the physical force of the allies. Hell, even in "Jolly Ol' " England, the King was the "Boss", the lords, dukes, and earls were the "under-bosses", and the "nights in shining armor" we now know were more akin to hired thugs. Mercenaries working for their cut. And everybody "kicked-up" to the "Boss"... Sure, there have been a few "good kings" but the more one digs, the more it is discovered that they weren't really very "good" after all.

I hate to use this word, because it was so overused 20-30 years ago, but we need a "paradigm shift" in how we deal with that which has taken so many names in the past (and present) but is really the same old thing over and over again...

...Organized Crime.


Once I used to join in
Every boy and girl was my friend
Now there's revolution, but they don't know
What they're fighting

~ Ian Anderson ~

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Misadministration [View all] H2O Man Dec 2024 OP
Wisdom. NewHendoLib Dec 2024 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2024 #3
Curious. How will studying the Constitution slow the rate of decay? Saoirse9 Dec 2024 #2
Great questions. H2O Man Dec 2024 #4
I have been schooled Saoirse9 Dec 2024 #32
As soon as I H2O Man Dec 2024 #34
I think you're right about these low-level florida mobsters bigtree Dec 2024 #5
Interesting! H2O Man Dec 2024 #9
Also ..... H2O Man Dec 2024 #12
I often wonder as I look at China, at the people there bigtree Dec 2024 #17
My brother thinks H2O Man Dec 2024 #19
with Ukraine it was a land invasion bigtree Dec 2024 #25
Will Trump intervene for Taiwan? Easterncedar Dec 2024 #35
they don't really need him to militarily bigtree Dec 2024 #38
Apropos of that, I remember the scene in "Back to School" ... malthaussen Dec 2024 #6
Ha! H2O Man Dec 2024 #13
It's a funny flick, worth your time. malthaussen Dec 2024 #29
A quote from a guy who knew a thing or two and moniss Dec 2024 #7
Some of the H2O Man Dec 2024 #14
Many people today have no idea how big and importatn boxing used to be moniss Dec 2024 #20
Right. H2O Man Dec 2024 #27
Some of the greatest fights moniss Dec 2024 #28
H2O man had a fight or two in the Gold Gloves. malthaussen Dec 2024 #30
It's beginning to look like the only thing that can galvanize opposition to the oligarchs... rubbersole Dec 2024 #8
What bothers me H2O Man Dec 2024 #15
I've been waiting for this kind of realization... Woodycall Dec 2024 #10
Outstanding! H2O Man Dec 2024 #16
Thank you. Woodycall Dec 2024 #24
But it's not the same. malthaussen Dec 2024 #31
You're still not seeing the forest Woodycall Dec 2024 #33
True. Very true. Easterncedar Dec 2024 #37
Federal judiciary -- trained by Koch Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2024 #11
Terrible. H2O Man Dec 2024 #18
This will be a full blown kakistocracy malaise Dec 2024 #21
Yep! H2O Man Dec 2024 #22
Recommended ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #23
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2024 #26
This is a great discussion you all have engaged in here Easterncedar Dec 2024 #36
One of my cousins H2O Man Dec 2024 #40
The Rot Is Deep and It Goes Way Back Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #39
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2024 #41
Ben was talking Revolution back in '54. Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #42
Ben spent a lot H2O Man Dec 2024 #43
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