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ancianita

(42,342 posts)
33. I don't understand how you don't know that all those things
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 05:34 PM
Jan 2025

were entirely out of the AG's control.

Television by itself is not probable cause for beginning an investigation.
Probable cause caused Congress, against whom the Jan 6 attack occurred, to immediately form investigations to hold Jan 6 hearings June 2022.
Meanwhile from Jan 6 2021 onward, the FBI under the AG investigated crimes committed against law enforcement and property from Jan 6 2021 to Jan 2025.

The AG did clean up the DOJ of Barr toadies starting the day he was finally confirmed two months after Biden's inauguration.

1. Overall,
The late-confirmed AG couldn't make the Senate confirm his Division heads.
He couldn't control the appellate and SCOTUS courts' timelines.

What the AG did do while FBI investigations, arrests and charges were brought against Jan 6 participants:

2. Four months after the AG was confirmed, six months after Biden's inauguration, Republicans finally confirm Kenneth Polite to head the DOJ's Criminal Division July 2021 -- four months after Biden nominated him for the DOJ Criminal division, two weeks before the AG's confirmation. After July the Criminal Division's work sped up.

January 6 2022: Garland states:
“So far, we have
-- issued over 5,000 subpoenas and search warrants,
-- seized approximately 2,000 devices,
-- pored through over 20,000 hours of video footage, and
-- searched through an estimated 15 terabytes of data...
-- received over 300,000 tips from ordinary citizens, who have been our indispensable partners in this effort.”

Garland handed off HIS documents case to Jack Smith.

Jan 2022
— 15 boxes found in the storage area
— the FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Maralago — of those
— 184 unique documents bearing classification markings, of those:
— 67 docs marked Confidential
— 92 docs marked Secret
— 25 docs marked Top Secret
markings reflected that docs were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls
used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security, including
HCS(Humint Control system),
FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act),
ORCON (originator controlled),
NORORN (could be NOFORN, no foreign national), AND
SI(Special Intelligence)

May 10 2022
— The first 100 documents marked as classified totaled over 700 pages [National Archives letter to Trump attorney, May 10, 2022]
May 11 2022: Garland convenes four DOJ Grand juries, one for Jan 6 convened until March 2024
— Grand Jury subpoenas Trump for documents

June 3 2022
— Trump lawyer hands over 40 boxes from Maralago storage room
— 38 docs marked Classified


June 3 2022: Garland's DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining docs in Maralago,
lawyers for Trump "certifying" that there were no more;
Trump stole 11,000 government docs, 300 classified docs — lawyers earlier handed over even more

July 22 2022: Garland's Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff, & Short's counsel Greg Jacob

August 8 2022
— FBI warrant search of Maralago
— 103 marked Classified
— 18 marked Top Secret

The law violated: —- 18 U.S.C. 793— Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.
Penalty: Fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
More on the indictability of stolen documents:
https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/

Sept 2 2022: Garland's Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone,
a) one of the participants in WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told him Trump didn’t want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
and Patrick Philbin
Sept 15 2022: Garland's Grand Jury subpoenas Mark Meadows for testimony and documents
the month of Sept 2022: Garland's DOJ issued over 40 subpoenas to people close to Trump, some of whom are
— Bill Stepien, DT’s campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
— Sean Dollman, DT’s campaign CFO
— Ben Williamson, Deputy of Mark Meadows,
— Boris Epshteyn, Trump's lawyer -- phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
— Mike Lindell -- phone seized
— William Russell, WH special asst to Trump, THEN special aide to Trump in Mar-a-lago

Oct 6 2022: Garland's Grand jury calls back Greg Jacob
Oct 13 2022: Garland's Grand Jury calls back Marc Short, Pence's chief of staff

Nov 4 2022: classified docs found in Biden’s
-- Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
-- Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents

3. Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith (3 days after Trump announces his candidacy for 2024), who inherits the records of the Garland DOJ's work.

By that very day, Nov 18 2022, Garland's DOJ had convicted more than 323 Jan 6 insurrectionists.

All of the above is what AG Merrick Garland and his DOJ did before Jack Smith.

We've been through these timelines many times on DU.

So what part of those things do you not understand, Think. Again.




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The excerpt you posted does not address critics who complain the DOJ didn't move fast enough. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #1
They only had four years HereForTheParty Jan 2025 #5
+1. Democrats had four years to prevent the nightmare dalton99a Jan 2025 #8
Absolutely, spray the mother cockroach first. GreenWave Jan 2025 #28
But other legal experts did eight months ago. ancianita Jan 2025 #23
I don't understand how all those things... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #27
I don't understand how you don't know that all those things ancianita Jan 2025 #33
Thank you for asking.... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #34
Reread the timeline, Think. Again. It's not about "allowing." His FBI made arrests ON Jan 6 onward. ancianita Jan 2025 #36
Jack Smith seems to disagree. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #37
Quote him. In context. ancianita Jan 2025 #41
Read his report. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #42
Haven't read Smith's Report and probably won't, but I don't think the report has much new, if anything. Silent Type Jan 2025 #2
Yeah, why read the report choie Jan 2025 #51
I know what trump did. I don't need anyone to decipher it. Nor do I appreciate Smith Silent Type Jan 2025 #52
That is bs choie Jan 2025 #53
Garland waited two years to appoint Smith. intheflow Jan 2025 #3
Yep, Garland's first order of business upon taking office should've... brush Jan 2025 #4
You're exactly right. lees1975 Jan 2025 #6
Yep, we all saw trump's guilt on TV. He should've been prosecuted... brush Jan 2025 #7
+1 dalton99a Jan 2025 #9
You misunderstand the justification for appointing a special counsel. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2025 #10
You don't seem to understand one was not needed. The AG should've lead the prosecution himself immediately... brush Jan 2025 #12
you fail to mention any consequence of the appointment that delayed anything bigtree Jan 2025 #17
Whatever all that means, we all saw trump's guilt unfold in real time on TV. brush Jan 2025 #18
that's the sum of your legal argument bigtree Jan 2025 #19
Not laughable to SC Smith as that's what his report concludes. brush Jan 2025 #20
Likely would have got a life sentence and would not be president n/t MichMan Jan 2025 #29
Six months earlier? intheflow Jan 2025 #26
Smith integrated almost seamlessly into what was described as a 'fast-moving investigation' bigtree Jan 2025 #13
By the time Garland had investigated the felons' underlings, the felon announced Nov 15 he'd run ancianita Jan 2025 #38
Critical thinking is hard Fiendish Thingy Jan 2025 #11
I look forward to not buying his book thebigidea Jan 2025 #14
didn't realize you actually read anything of substance in relation to this case bigtree Jan 2025 #15
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2025 #16
I've only seen posts blaming Merrick Garland? happy feet Jan 2025 #30
There have been H2O Man Jan 2025 #32
I still think tsf should have been arrested in the evening of Jan 6 crud Jan 2025 #21
That would have been unlawful and illegal by any standards of justice. ancianita Jan 2025 #39
You are probably correct, I'm not a lawyer crud Jan 2025 #44
There can be no "maybe's" in justice. Anything done that you want done instantly is flat out ancianita Jan 2025 #46
Looks to me like there is no justice in justice either crud Jan 2025 #47
Only if you don't look at the "equality before the law" parts. ancianita Jan 2025 #50
Sorry. Justice is dead. intheflow Jan 2025 #56
It's still wrong angrychair Jan 2025 #22
"The DOJ is choosing to allow someone they factually know to be a criminal to become president" ancianita Jan 2025 #40
I think you misunderstood angrychair Jan 2025 #43
Not really. ancianita Jan 2025 #45
Case was already ongoing angrychair Jan 2025 #48
Luigi Mangione should immediately announce his candidacy HAB911 Jan 2025 #24
and eight months ago ancianita Jan 2025 #25
Thank you for posting. Truth matters. Joinfortmill Jan 2025 #31
this has garland's fingerprints all over ecstatic Jan 2025 #35
He sided with "the rule of law," intheflow Jan 2025 #57
Downloaded from link. Amazon has it up at Kindle, but if you can download it you don't need Kindle... Hekate Jan 2025 #49
A Garland apologist edhopper Jan 2025 #54
When the National Archives gab13by13 Jan 2025 #55
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