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In reply to the discussion: Where in the hell is Obama? where in the hell is Clinton? where in the hell is Harris? Where in the hell is Hillary? [View all]MineralMan
(149,487 posts)167. Actually, they're not in it at all any longer.
The names given are not even in government any longer. They have no power. When they did, they were roundly criticized, and by the same people we're hearing from today.
They led, but we did not follow. We just demanded more. We took every opportunity to criticize and skipped out when support was needed. And, thus we have what we have now.
I will have more to say about that shortly.
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Where in the hell is Obama? where in the hell is Clinton? where in the hell is Harris? Where in the hell is Hillary? [View all]
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
OP
Exactly. What good would it do? What would be the point? To just say "well, we tried to tell you"?
Texin
Feb 2025
#116
God's favor must then be upon the many, many people who have near misses with death.
Beartracks
Feb 2025
#304
I'm not blaming them for the loss but I don't understand why they're not taking strong PUBLIC stands now. nt
pnwmom
Feb 2025
#279
Agreed. Blaming other Dems, none in office, when the rethugs are rushing forward to kiss Musk/trump's asses...
brush
Feb 2025
#24
Not even a month in office and you're blaming Dems instead of rhe rethug ass kissers.
brush
Feb 2025
#50
I'm not blaming them for what's happening, I'm blaming them for staying silent about what's happening. People here on DU
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#85
Not touchy. Common sense. You have your opinion. I have mine that posts on te same thread are related.
brush
Feb 2025
#180
they could pen op eds at least - at least speak up, going silent is not really helpful right now.
Blues Heron
Feb 2025
#131
its an all hands on deck moment- what part of that do they not understand?
Blues Heron
Feb 2025
#142
Oh... thanks for mentioning them by name. I was wondering who that user was.
Oopsie Daisy
Feb 2025
#316
Excuse me, but no one is claiming anything of the sort. I am simply pointing out that they are not saying one damn thing
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#88
The republicans certainly don't take your advice when they are out of power
LearnedHand
Feb 2025
#159
If they did that they wouldn't get anything else done. Try googling what their schedules are...
Hekate
Feb 2025
#344
I don't care if they have any actual ability to make a change, they have the ability to get out there and rave about
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#80
I'm supposed to blame Musk for Democratic "leaders" not standing up? Utter bullshit.
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2025
#157
Out of office have more freedom to scream the truth but they choose not to.
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2025
#185
No give me one. Did you read Bernie's statement today. Now there is a guy with some balls and he's not, I remind you
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#224
I applaud them. There is a time for a leader to step up and try to take bullets and there is a time
LiberalArkie
Feb 2025
#98
Leaders should lead. Each of the aforementioned could galvanize their following. They know how to organize.
Magoo48
Feb 2025
#312
Wow, I must have missed it and so did the majority of the country, It's more like a quiet mew than a wholesome rave
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#83
Gosh, it's almost like he's the only one who will be running in the future so he has to speak up now.
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#93
Total you know what. CNN, MSNBC, many blogs would be oh so happy to have them on. How about Blue Sky. For that matter,
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#94
PLUS 1,000,000,000!! And not just those who didn't bother, but the one's who JUMPED SHIP for Trump...
B.See
Feb 2025
#278
the issue is how to build and communicate a message that will bring out the voters
samsingh
Feb 2025
#77
Huh? They can rail against the machine but no, that would be too much to ask. Millions of us voted for every one of them
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#96
According to a recent YouGov poll - 20 million who voted for Biden in 2020 didn't vote
womanofthehills
Feb 2025
#275
Where did those 6 million votes go that Biden got in '20 but Harris didn't get in '24? n/t
elocs
Feb 2025
#216
I haven't been paying as much attention so I'm not sure if they have said some things or not
Meowmee
Feb 2025
#219
Lol! They already have ALL of our tax information. Which means they know every financial
Scrivener7
Feb 2025
#46
And PS: you don't wait for R's to come to their senses. They don't. You bribe them or threaten them.
Scrivener7
Feb 2025
#49
Come on. It should be, who wants to lead the country in the future? Looks like Pete, anyone else?
dem4decades
Feb 2025
#11
I get texts and emails from Maxwell Frost, David Hogg and AOC almost every day.
ancianita
Feb 2025
#150
This right here. Like Marc Antony's impact ...For Brutus is an honourable man; So are they all, all honourable men
JudyM
Feb 2025
#209
Sounds like the failed "keeping our powder dry" policy of Democratss during Bush's Iraq war.
progressoid
Feb 2025
#284
No one has used their oath of office or military oath as leverage to declare the orange convict a domestic enemy as used
Hotler
Feb 2025
#23
What are they going to do, scream, holler, rail against trump, etc.? We tried that and lost election.
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#26
Yes. At least we can go down screaming our heads off on how wrong it all is.
LakeArenal
Feb 2025
#58
Then I expect to see none of them next convention. if they are mute due to inadequate admiration.
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2025
#191
We are asking Democrats to fight a war that they are totally unprepared to fight.
hadEnuf
Feb 2025
#69
Guess the populist lie Democrats are corrupt elites, "counting their money" "they've got money" "sipping Chardonnay"
betsuni
Feb 2025
#222
Shouting from rooftops, apparently. If they actually shouted from rooftops it would be the wrong rooftop
betsuni
Feb 2025
#197
Another case of Democrats doing what people say they want them to do, then whining and bashing
betsuni
Feb 2025
#203
No mention of my exact county in California !!11!! So they are dead to me !!!11!
Hekate
Feb 2025
#234
Official titles and/or previous accomplishments are not what makes a person a leader.
surrealAmerican
Feb 2025
#53
I would like to add AOC and Pete Buttigieg to the list of those who are speaking up.
33taw
Feb 2025
#318
I excerpted this from a longer post. The above, less the AG's (who are crazy busy filing lawsuits) are prominent.
usonian
Feb 2025
#319
Doing something feeble at this point is meaningless or counter-productive. They are waiting for the right moment to
Martin68
Feb 2025
#71
They can't do anything about this. They can all go meet with Dumpy but he won't listen to them and continue his
OLDMDDEM
Feb 2025
#89
They can let their voices be heard. Not sit around like bumps on a log. Sorry, but there are plenty of brave people
ratchiweenie
Feb 2025
#136
then Trump would parry all of what he does off of those out of power private citizens
bigtree
Feb 2025
#101
"you don't see the people clamoring for another figurehead to speak for them" YES.
betsuni
Feb 2025
#205
I think that the Clintons, the Obamas, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden should all
totodeinhere
Feb 2025
#107
You do know that they did everything in their power to get Joe & then Kamala elected, don't you? EVERYTHING.
Hekate
Feb 2025
#130
Yet another "Why didn't/don't Democrats stop ____ ?" The "elite Democratic Establishment" (leadership) save everyone?
betsuni
Feb 2025
#147
Political cults of personality are how we got into this mess, maybe we should
RockRaven
Feb 2025
#160
What money? You mean funding for campaigns? What are you accusing Democrats of?
betsuni
Feb 2025
#223
I sure as heck would like to hear something. I was even looking for what the Canadians said
Beringia
Feb 2025
#204
Great question. Starting to feel like we have lost the zero sum game the Rs were playing all along. Yeah, maybe not
KPN
Feb 2025
#227
No white knights are coming to our rescue. We Dems have needed to learn that lesson
JCMach1
Feb 2025
#228
They all did everything they conceivably could last year. The American people owe them an apology.
Hekate
Feb 2025
#238
Barak Obama, Bill Clinton, Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton announce a huge, important press conference.
Wednesdays
Feb 2025
#286
This is valid criticism because Trump never shut up or left politics after his loss in 2020. Why are Dems so quiet?
LonePirate
Feb 2025
#302
Don't you DARE blame them. WTH. They all sacrificed and contributed, and owe nothing to no one.
lostnfound
Feb 2025
#307
Also, there's a bit of smart advice "save your silver bullets" and "keep your powder dry"
lostnfound
Feb 2025
#308
This post reminds me of a child thinking because he can't see you, you can't see him.
Trueblue Texan
Feb 2025
#317
It's never the right time to start trying to blame them for this. Concentrate on the situation at hand.
Judi Lynn
Feb 2025
#327