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330. Oh yeah, the US is truly f'ked. But hearts and minds are a problem.

Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:06 PM

Feb 2025

Hearts and minds of the masses. Probably more ‘minds’ than ‘hearts’ actually. There are plenty of generally good people who have been duped and lured into a fantasyland where trump is some kind of savior who will be the impetus for tearing down an evil secret state; or restoring the old America; or magically is the savior the country needs. Who have fallen into believing ‘both sides are bad’, vaccines have microchips; there are secret plots everywhere.

(Hearts are a problem too, but you can’t reprogram or enlighten most racists.)

Grapple with The Shock Doctrine, macroeconomics, fascist playbooks, and movies like Number 24 to help expand the imagination for what humanity is capable of, that’s my suggestion. Like the song Night Vision by Suzanne Vega:

By day give thanks
By night beware
Half the world in sweetness
The other in fear

When the darkness takes you
With her hand across your face
Don't give in too quickly
Find the thing she's erased

[Chorus]
Find the line
Find the shape through the grain
Find the outline
And things will tell you their name

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Where in the hell is Obama? where in the hell is Clinton? where in the hell is Harris? Where in the hell is Hillary? [View all] ratchiweenie Feb 2025 OP

It's pretty disappointing to say the least bif Feb 2025 #1

The 1.2% rejected them at the polls, & you want to blame them now?! NotHardly Feb 2025 #108

Exactly. What good would it do? What would be the point? To just say "well, we tried to tell you"? Texin Feb 2025 #116

I actually think a little "I told you so" is warranted, senseandsensibility Feb 2025 #174

I love the uneducated! BidenRocks Feb 2025 #283

A stereotype with a certain amount of truth behind it. summer_in_TX Feb 2025 #288

That was trumps quote. BidenRocks Feb 2025 #289

They are fortunately not the ugly MAGA hardcore types. summer_in_TX Feb 2025 #291

God's favor must then be upon the many, many people who have near misses with death. Beartracks Feb 2025 #304

Exactly! summer_in_TX Feb 2025 #339

I would replace that word 'rejected' with the word 'suppressed'. Mr.Bee Feb 2025 #193

Exactly. I feel THIS poster is NOT bluestarone Feb 2025 #207

No. this poster cares about the country kansasobama Feb 2025 #265

Disagree! bluestarone Feb 2025 #309

Constitution is outdated serbbral Feb 2025 #334

2 Senators per state kansasobama Feb 2025 #343

I agree serbbral Feb 2025 #345

I'm not blaming them for the loss but I don't understand why they're not taking strong PUBLIC stands now. nt pnwmom Feb 2025 #279

I think the OP is asking why we haven't heard from them? COL Mustard Feb 2025 #296

Agree True Blue American Feb 2025 #301

I get Harris and Walz DownriverDem Feb 2025 #310

Worrying that we have not heard anything from them. Polly Hennessey Feb 2025 #2

They have little if any influence over anything at the moment Aviation Pro Feb 2025 #3

Agreed. Blaming other Dems, none in office, when the rethugs are rushing forward to kiss Musk/trump's asses... brush Feb 2025 #24

Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #47

Not even a month in office and you're blaming Dems instead of rhe rethug ass kissers. brush Feb 2025 #50

I'm not blaming them for what's happening, I'm blaming them for staying silent about what's happening. People here on DU ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #85

Like they can do a lot when rethug Nazis hold all the levers of power. brush Feb 2025 #91

You suggest that doing nothing is the best way to go here? Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #106

Read my post again. I said the Dems not in office are... brush Feb 2025 #117

The post I replied to said no such thing. Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #145

Read post 137. brush Feb 2025 #154

I wasn't replying to Post 137. Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #155

Oh really? Posts on the same OP thread aren't related now? brush Feb 2025 #158

Don't be so touchy. Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #173

Not touchy. Common sense. You have your opinion. I have mine that posts on te same thread are related. brush Feb 2025 #180

Then why didn't you consider my second post in its entirety? Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #290

they could pen op eds at least - at least speak up, going silent is not really helpful right now. Blues Heron Feb 2025 #131

Blame the Nazi Musk/trump admin, not Dems no longer in office. brush Feb 2025 #137

The coup is not preventing them HarryM Feb 2025 #141

its an all hands on deck moment- what part of that do they not understand? Blues Heron Feb 2025 #142

They have voices don't they? Hieronymus Phact Feb 2025 #256

Agree! True Blue American Feb 2025 #322

Two things can be right at the same time.. whathehell Feb 2025 #97

Oh please! Felicita Feb 2025 #92

I'm with you 1000% Lunabell. nt Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #100

Oh... thanks for mentioning them by name. I was wondering who that user was. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #316

Really!? Seriously!? sheshe2 Feb 2025 #169

"She just needs to go away" mcar Feb 2025 #188

And the Church says serbbral Feb 2025 #335

Things are being done hannah Feb 2025 #181

+1 betsuni Feb 2025 #199

No clue why people are saying Dems are doing nothing sheshe2 Feb 2025 #280

It's Democratic Undermine! betsuni Feb 2025 #294

Excellent point, betsuni. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #325

Thank you for these links! MontanaMama Feb 2025 #323

You are welcome, MM. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #324

Sadly, we've seen this far too many times PatSeg Feb 2025 #54

Absolutely correct. Blame the perps, not the Dems not in power for this mess. brush Feb 2025 #65

And I'm not above criticizing some Democrats now and then PatSeg Feb 2025 #208

I gotta tell you DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #248

Yeah, people got too involved with the PatSeg Feb 2025 #254

Totally agree PS NC DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #272

Excuse me, but no one is claiming anything of the sort. I am simply pointing out that they are not saying one damn thing ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #88

Everyone needs to calm down. Wifes husband Feb 2025 #109

The republicans certainly don't take your advice when they are out of power LearnedHand Feb 2025 #159

And that is exactly what republicans want us to do PatSeg Feb 2025 #210

My point exactly Wifes husband Feb 2025 #226

I agree PatSeg Feb 2025 #212

I'm not blaming democrats... slightlv Feb 2025 #241

EXACTLY! HarryM Feb 2025 #146

I guess it is a matter of perspective PatSeg Feb 2025 #211

Me too happy feet Feb 2025 #250

During the Biden administration, PatSeg Feb 2025 #255

I am with you Ratchiweenie kansasobama Feb 2025 #266

If they did that they wouldn't get anything else done. Try googling what their schedules are... Hekate Feb 2025 #344

Blaming them? No. Wondering why they are silent in their influence? Yes. Gore1FL Feb 2025 #72

What infuence? Presidency? No. Senate/House? No. SCOTUS? No. brush Feb 2025 #86

If they don't have influence, why do we let them speak at our conventions? Gore1FL Feb 2025 #143

Respectfully disagree... electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #202

Nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #90

Exactly kansasobama Feb 2025 #268

I don't care if they have any actual ability to make a change, they have the ability to get out there and rave about ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #80

Blame the Nazi Musk/trump admin, not Democrates. brush Feb 2025 #129

I'm supposed to blame Musk for Democratic "leaders" not standing up? Utter bullshit. Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #157

You do what you do but I don't bash Dem public figures... brush Feb 2025 #164

Out of office have more freedom to scream the truth but they choose not to. Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #185

Expressing our opinions and/or questioning their whathehell Feb 2025 #214

Review what TOS violations mean. brush Feb 2025 #231

I don't need to do that whathehell Feb 2025 #240

"Nary a peep" ? Get serious. Hekate Feb 2025 #239

I don't see it as "blaming Dems" RussBLib Feb 2025 #124

No give me one. Did you read Bernie's statement today. Now there is a guy with some balls and he's not, I remind you ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #224

i disagree. they have influence Tetrachloride Feb 2025 #84

I applaud them. There is a time for a leader to step up and try to take bullets and there is a time LiberalArkie Feb 2025 #98

So it's up to HarryM Feb 2025 #133

Leaders should lead. Each of the aforementioned could galvanize their following. They know how to organize. Magoo48 Feb 2025 #312

Buttigieg is there. Hillary was speaking out late last 33taw Feb 2025 #4

I did see a video of Harris at a Broadway play newdeal2 Feb 2025 #7

Sorry. How the fuck does that matter at all? Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #105

Why is she required to lead the charge? newdeal2 Feb 2025 #132

They should ALL be standing up, if they are really leaders. Old and new. Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #144

I do see a few of the younger Dems HarryM Feb 2025 #149

Yessssssss! serbbral Feb 2025 #337

Wow, I must have missed it and so did the majority of the country, It's more like a quiet mew than a wholesome rave ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #83

Gosh, it's almost like he's the only one who will be running in the future so he has to speak up now. ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #93

Crockett and AOC have spoken up as well. 33taw Feb 2025 #175

Speaking of people capable of becoming effective, smart leaders. marble falls Feb 2025 #190

Bernie is speaking up too. 33taw Feb 2025 #263

THIS!! RockCreek Feb 2025 #5

Funny how democrats don't get much airtime when republicans own the media. unblock Feb 2025 #6

Along those lines... LuvLoogie Feb 2025 #9

This is 100% correct mcar Feb 2025 #189

Total you know what. CNN, MSNBC, many blogs would be oh so happy to have them on. How about Blue Sky. For that matter, ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #94

Exactly happy feet Feb 2025 #251

Where in the hell were all our voters last November? calguy Feb 2025 #8

+1 krawhitham Feb 2025 #17

PLUS 1,000,000,000!! And not just those who didn't bother, but the one's who JUMPED SHIP for Trump... B.See Feb 2025 #278

A BIG THANK YOU! You are so on target. Jit423 Feb 2025 #31

The dems got duped into demonizing social media and Chineses hackers LuvLoogie Feb 2025 #36

They were suppressed via republican voter purges... SnoopDog Feb 2025 #39

the issue is how to build and communicate a message that will bring out the voters samsingh Feb 2025 #77

Huh? They can rail against the machine but no, that would be too much to ask. Millions of us voted for every one of them ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #96

My point, unfortunately, is not ENOUGH of us voted calguy Feb 2025 #123

THIS! -- Where were our voters last November? Hekate Feb 2025 #118

According to a recent YouGov poll - 20 million who voted for Biden in 2020 didn't vote womanofthehills Feb 2025 #275

So what are they supposed to do? HarryM Feb 2025 #151

Where did those 6 million votes go that Biden got in '20 but Harris didn't get in '24? n/t elocs Feb 2025 #216

They didn't bother to show up. calguy Feb 2025 #217

I haven't been paying as much attention so I'm not sure if they have said some things or not Meowmee Feb 2025 #219

Wisely staying quiet. We'll hear from them near the point of no return. Ken Mosul Feb 2025 #10

How close to the "point of no return" should they wait? displacedvermoter Feb 2025 #30

Lol! They already have ALL of our tax information. Which means they know every financial Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #46

And PS: you don't wait for R's to come to their senses. They don't. You bribe them or threaten them. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #49

Well since we are competing against the richest man in the world sunnybrook Feb 2025 #59

I think that was meant somewhat sarcastically Lulu KC Feb 2025 #125

On second read, I think you're right. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #126

Took me a minute Lulu KC Feb 2025 #128

If the plan is to hope for berksdem Feb 2025 #313

Come on. It should be, who wants to lead the country in the future? Looks like Pete, anyone else? dem4decades Feb 2025 #11

I hear Rebl2 Feb 2025 #22

AOC needs to be VP on the next ticket missingm Feb 2025 #33

I agree Rebl2 Feb 2025 #37

But young voters failed us sunnybrook Feb 2025 #51

The majority of voters under 45 cast their ballots for Harris . Mariana Feb 2025 #73

I',m 7 something decades but think toward the future - Backseat Driver Feb 2025 #192

My husband Rebl2 Feb 2025 #218

I'm glad all of you were among the minority of voters 45 and over. Mariana Feb 2025 #247

I don't doubt that sunnybrook Feb 2025 #232

You're assuming higher turnout among them would mean more votes for Harris. Mariana Feb 2025 #249

bollocks Celerity Feb 2025 #221

I didn't intend my reply as blaming younger folks sunnybrook Feb 2025 #242

I'll ask the crazy question serbbral Feb 2025 #338

AOC and Buttigieg Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #111

Yup, need a rich white guy. Pritzker's at the top of my 2028 contenders list Arazi Feb 2025 #120

True, but that would lead logically to Joe Manchin. Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #153

Pritzker is NOT Trump-lite Arazi Feb 2025 #166

No, he is not. But your reason for putting him up Jakes Progress Feb 2025 #244

The 'status quo' has already been successfully challenged whathehell Feb 2025 #243

The Guardian quoted Senator Murphy from Connecticut BarbD Feb 2025 #119

Exactly. They would take a lot of oxygen out of the RubyRose Feb 2025 #57

Only two governors - JB Pritzker and Walz have stepped up Arazi Feb 2025 #62

I get texts and emails from Maxwell Frost, David Hogg and AOC almost every day. ancianita Feb 2025 #150

give the republicans enough rope Bluecollarjonny Feb 2025 #12

Wrong answer. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #18

The problem is they will kill so many innocent people along the way. milestogo Feb 2025 #20

That is correct Renew Deal Feb 2025 #42

They have already killed/murdered millions Meowmee Feb 2025 #293

That's the strategy that got us here. It's idiotic. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #48

Thanks for your 1st post and welcome to DU ! KS Toronado Feb 2025 #215

if so, that is a real shitty answer. berksdem Feb 2025 #314

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #332

Silence is acceptance. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #13

And what would you like them to do, give examples please krawhitham Feb 2025 #14

Dems still worried about "how it looks"? whathehell Feb 2025 #55

a sharp turn of phrase or slogan can motivate a lot of people RussBLib Feb 2025 #138

This right here. Like Marc Antony's impact ...For Brutus is an honourable man; So are they all, all honourable men JudyM Feb 2025 #209

Sounds like the failed "keeping our powder dry" policy of Democratss during Bush's Iraq war. progressoid Feb 2025 #284

One president at a time WhiteTara Feb 2025 #15

Trump didn't follow that and neither should we. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #25

I got a fund raising text from Obama today. GoodRaisin Feb 2025 #16

I hope they are plotting in the background. milestogo Feb 2025 #19

I have been hoping that. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #27

Its hard for me to picture Obama doing nothing. milestogo Feb 2025 #34

Keeping their powder dry, no doubt Shrek Feb 2025 #21

No one has used their oath of office or military oath as leverage to declare the orange convict a domestic enemy as used Hotler Feb 2025 #23

Exactly Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #28

Who? claudette Feb 2025 #60

What are they going to do, scream, holler, rail against trump, etc.? We tried that and lost election. Silent Type Feb 2025 #26

Yes. At least we can go down screaming our heads off on how wrong it all is. LakeArenal Feb 2025 #58

They're somewhere, asking: "Who the hell is ratchiweenie?" MineralMan Feb 2025 #29

Then they are not leaders, are they. Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #161

Actually, they're not in it at all any longer. MineralMan Feb 2025 #167

Absolutely true. betsuni Feb 2025 #187

Then I expect to see none of them next convention. if they are mute due to inadequate admiration. Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #191

Why should they do anything? hunter Feb 2025 #32

Sometimes, maybe you have to let the shit totally Dan Feb 2025 #63

Had to check the top of the page again, make sure I am on the right site... sarisataka Feb 2025 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2025 #38

I'd say let them be. We wouldn't be where we are today without them. jalan48 Feb 2025 #40

There are no saviors Renew Deal Feb 2025 #41

We are asking Democrats to fight a war that they are totally unprepared to fight. hadEnuf Feb 2025 #69

Agreed Baron2024 Feb 2025 #271

You forgot Joe Biden. mr715 Feb 2025 #43

Guess the populist lie Democrats are corrupt elites, "counting their money" "they've got money" "sipping Chardonnay" betsuni Feb 2025 #222

What do you think they are capable of doing? What a bizarre thread. tritsofme Feb 2025 #44

Shouting from rooftops, apparently. If they actually shouted from rooftops it would be the wrong rooftop betsuni Feb 2025 #197

Im not certain they can do anything about it oldmanlynn Feb 2025 #45

ICYMI... ancianita Feb 2025 #61

Another case of Democrats doing what people say they want them to do, then whining and bashing betsuni Feb 2025 #203

No mention of my exact county in California !!11!! So they are dead to me !!!11! Hekate Feb 2025 #234

I receive a letter from Harris almost every day (including today) CountAllVotes Feb 2025 #52

How dreadful. So the "Unsubscribe" link failed to work? Hekate Feb 2025 #235

Official titles and/or previous accomplishments are not what makes a person a leader. surrealAmerican Feb 2025 #53

Obama, Clinton and Harris Don't Owe Us Anything Chadarius Feb 2025 #56

They jumped right in. True Blue American Feb 2025 #79

All this whining and crying isn't getting old, it's been old for a while now. taxi Feb 2025 #64

I'm sure they're doing fine. The Oscars are coming up so maybe prepping JanMichael Feb 2025 #66

I echo your thoughts, maybe they can have some fun at the Oscars Beringia Feb 2025 #194

I'm hearing from them. They want money. Biophilic Feb 2025 #67

I replied the latest party request for money. usonian Feb 2025 #172

I agree 100%. Biophilic Feb 2025 #200

Exactly Right Baron2024 Feb 2025 #273

I would like to add AOC and Pete Buttigieg to the list of those who are speaking up. 33taw Feb 2025 #318

I excerpted this from a longer post. The above, less the AG's (who are crazy busy filing lawsuits) are prominent. usonian Feb 2025 #319

The voters soiled their bed Keepthesoulalive Feb 2025 #68

The Leaders did it by rejecting Biden. True Blue American Feb 2025 #78

I was all in for Joe Keepthesoulalive Feb 2025 #95

Not one of those so called leaders stood up for Joe after all he True Blue American Feb 2025 #300

There's always some sort of excuse. W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #259

I asked and I have a suggestion for the path forward. usonian Feb 2025 #70

Doing something feeble at this point is meaningless or counter-productive. They are waiting for the right moment to Martin68 Feb 2025 #71

It probably pretty naive for me to thinks this.. Stpaoulboy Feb 2025 #74

I am naive... Stpaoulboy Feb 2025 #75

It takes Michael Steele to tell them? True Blue American Feb 2025 #76

they got money Tetrachloride Feb 2025 #81

THIS FirstLight Feb 2025 #162

Why would they want to talk about it? Passages Feb 2025 #82

So marked for future perusal! Thanks! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Feb 2025 #87

They can't do anything about this. They can all go meet with Dumpy but he won't listen to them and continue his OLDMDDEM Feb 2025 #89

They can lead Farmer-Rick Feb 2025 #127

They can let their voices be heard. Not sit around like bumps on a log. Sorry, but there are plenty of brave people ratchiweenie Feb 2025 #136

Ok so.... Abstractartist Feb 2025 #99

then Trump would parry all of what he does off of those out of power private citizens bigtree Feb 2025 #101

"you don't see the people clamoring for another figurehead to speak for them" YES. betsuni Feb 2025 #205

Which positions do these people hold? Progressive dog Feb 2025 #102

This is what I really don't understand karin_sj Feb 2025 #103

how did Democratic voters answer them just months ago? bigtree Feb 2025 #110

Yes I checked, hrc on twitter posted about a demonstration on Feb 4th Meowmee Feb 2025 #295

What are they able to do? live love laugh Feb 2025 #104

I think that the Clintons, the Obamas, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden should all totodeinhere Feb 2025 #107

Last time I saw them was at Trump's inauguration. Emile Feb 2025 #112

You win the thread! TurboDem Feb 2025 #305

My thinking: birdographer Feb 2025 #113

That is a fantasy. Boomerproud Feb 2025 #196

They told people to support Harris and people didn't listen to them JI7 Feb 2025 #114

They told folks and history. GETTINGTIRED Feb 2025 #115

Probably like me. Just in an absolute dream of what we thought our efhmc Feb 2025 #121

The only one who has legitimate sway is Obama. Self Esteem Feb 2025 #122

You do know that they did everything in their power to get Joe & then Kamala elected, don't you? EVERYTHING. Hekate Feb 2025 #130

I got an email from Obama Dr. Shepper Feb 2025 #134

Private citizens JustAnotherGen Feb 2025 #135

Should we really expect unelected people to lead the charge against Trump? perdita9 Feb 2025 #139

You mean the annual Barack hearts Michelle V-Day tweet BeyondGeography Feb 2025 #140

Yet another "Why didn't/don't Democrats stop ____ ?" The "elite Democratic Establishment" (leadership) save everyone? betsuni Feb 2025 #147

Insulting, ineffective, and obnoxious fundraising continues Akakoji Feb 2025 #148

Surely these three should H2O Man Feb 2025 #152

Thank you! Lulu KC Feb 2025 #179

We are the heros we need keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #156

Yup Lulu KC Feb 2025 #183

We have to hit the streets keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #195

It is building Lulu KC Feb 2025 #201

Well said keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #233

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2025 #341

Political cults of personality are how we got into this mess, maybe we should RockRaven Feb 2025 #160

Nope. Raven123 Feb 2025 #163

Where is..... Jughead Feb 2025 #165

Counting their money? Planning on where to go when they leave the country? FirstLight Feb 2025 #168

Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #177

What money? You mean funding for campaigns? What are you accusing Democrats of? betsuni Feb 2025 #223

Unrec... SidDithers Feb 2025 #170

Amen and amen n/t Lulu KC Feb 2025 #182

Wow - it wasn't that long ago Sundance1220 Feb 2025 #171

I think they typically hold their fire until when it's near an election AdamGG Feb 2025 #176

This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Feb 2025 #178

Retired AkFemDem Feb 2025 #184

Well, yes, actually. Gore1FL Feb 2025 #230

In a constitutional crisis, yes RockCreek Feb 2025 #311

doing whatever they do stillcool Feb 2025 #186

This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Feb 2025 #198

I sure as heck would like to hear something. I was even looking for what the Canadians said Beringia Feb 2025 #204

Instead of attending the orage blobs samplegirl Feb 2025 #206

Hillary can tell us all to f*ck ourselves and xmas74 Feb 2025 #213

For many of us, this plea isn't about blame... OneGrassRoot Feb 2025 #220

Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #225

Great question. Starting to feel like we have lost the zero sum game the Rs were playing all along. Yeah, maybe not KPN Feb 2025 #227

No white knights are coming to our rescue. We Dems have needed to learn that lesson JCMach1 Feb 2025 #228

Where the Hell are Obama Clinton kamal Hillary. Jjmc Feb 2025 #229

They all did everything they conceivably could last year. The American people owe them an apology. Hekate Feb 2025 #238

I Voted Baron2024 Feb 2025 #274

Can't lead stupid LiberalBear Feb 2025 #236

The Obamas and the Clintons are each worth like $100 million, so flvegan Feb 2025 #237

You have No Idea What they're Doing.. all Cha Feb 2025 #281

I'm touched. Really. That you chose me. flvegan Feb 2025 #292

Maybe gearing up for a third term? NH Ethylene Feb 2025 #245

Shame on you! bluestarone Feb 2025 #246

Maybe at some point it might occur to you to blame the Nazis - TBF Feb 2025 #252

Obama and Clinton LilElf70 Feb 2025 #253

They're all private citizens now, just like you and me. W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #257

NEED SOMEONE who can channel FDR and reassure us that the Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2025 #258

KEEPING THEIR POWDER DRY? Xoan Feb 2025 #260

i got a text from one of them the other day. barbtries Feb 2025 #261

They're all retired from politics SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #262

The author has a valid point kansasobama Feb 2025 #264

Not a knock on the party, but we need new leaders... DSandra Feb 2025 #267

Are they afraid of Musk? very strange to be so quiet.. berkerly6240 Feb 2025 #269

I'm sure they all have an opinion. Aussie105 Feb 2025 #270

They got theirs. Cobalt Violet Feb 2025 #276

I was wondering the same thing synni Feb 2025 #277

yes we need to focus on the GOPigs, but DonCoquixote Feb 2025 #282

Try the ones holding office Historic NY Feb 2025 #285

Barak Obama, Bill Clinton, Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton announce a huge, important press conference. Wednesdays Feb 2025 #286

Maybe it's time for some younger leaders to step up. C Moon Feb 2025 #287

It is Bizarre. It seems like if they really cared they would be Speaking up. SweetieD Feb 2025 #297

They are probably trying their hardest to stay completely OFF Mike 03 Feb 2025 #298

ah. the good old days. KG Feb 2025 #299

This is valid criticism because Trump never shut up or left politics after his loss in 2020. Why are Dems so quiet? LonePirate Feb 2025 #302

what are they going to say or do? RJ-MacReady Feb 2025 #303

I agree 4catsmom Feb 2025 #306

Don't you DARE blame them. WTH. They all sacrificed and contributed, and owe nothing to no one. lostnfound Feb 2025 #307

Also, there's a bit of smart advice "save your silver bullets" and "keep your powder dry" lostnfound Feb 2025 #308

then my question is berksdem Feb 2025 #315

Oh yeah, the US is truly f'ked. But hearts and minds are a problem. lostnfound Feb 2025 #330

And as a parent this part reminds me of lessons I didn't teach well enough lostnfound Feb 2025 #331

This post reminds me of a child thinking because he can't see you, you can't see him. Trueblue Texan Feb 2025 #317

In ordinary times. Yes, not now kansasobama Feb 2025 #321

You are arguing for our helplessness...it is not helpful. nt Trueblue Texan Feb 2025 #333

No. a national movement now can defeat fascism kansasobama Feb 2025 #342

It's just like that! betsuni Feb 2025 #336

We have Scubamatt Feb 2025 #320

Trump never during Biden's presidency . . . Richard D Feb 2025 #326

It's never the right time to start trying to blame them for this. Concentrate on the situation at hand. Judi Lynn Feb 2025 #327

They are following the Merrick Garland school of thought ...... keeping the powder dry and all that jazz. We really kelly1mm Feb 2025 #328

Our Leaders serbbral Feb 2025 #329

They put in their time Tree Lady Feb 2025 #340