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FirstLight

(15,567 posts)
82. this.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:33 AM
Mar 2025

From what I can remember and gathered here, he did not challenge or debate his last person that he had on. What makes you think that it's going to go any differently with this monster?

I have been a little put off by his behavior as of late. At first, I thought that we'd be safer in California because of him, now I am worrying that he might just sell us down the river...

One thing I do know, is that if Kamala runs for governor, I am very much voting for her!

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The answer is: pandering. choie Mar 2025 #1
Maybe the same thing Pete Buttigege is doing by regularly going on Fox. Sogo Mar 2025 #2
Here's the kicker: Steven Bannon is too crazy for FOX News. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #5
Pete is better at controlling the narrative. nt dflprincess Mar 2025 #8
Yep Rebl2 Mar 2025 #104
I disagree Grenouille50 Mar 2025 #30
Which is also a bad idea... why give Fux Witda News any credibility?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #34
because we need to reach the people in the bubble MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #62
No we don't need to reach republicans... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #176
Of course we need to reach Republicans that actually vote MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #214
No, republicans will rarely change to vote Dem... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #215
This is not a usual circumstance. Rare doesn't mean never. And people MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #216
I totally agree with MadamButterfly (#62). I'm hoping this thread will give ... LAS14 Mar 2025 #140
Thanks but MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #217
There's a difference between using your own platform to give fascists a chance to make their case and going on Fox WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #92
This right here. pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #115
Except Pete is a master at controlling the narrative pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #114
Can you imagine Buttigieg participating in a visual like that one? nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #139
He really thinks he's gonna be president and somehow making nice with authoritarian fascists Carlitos Brigante Mar 2025 #3
+1 leftstreet Mar 2025 #13
Zero chance!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #35
That's not what he's thinking. FFS. themaguffin Mar 2025 #144
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #180
I think he's trying to see if he can reach people on chowder66 Mar 2025 #4
The people who know and listen to Bannon are Neo-Nazis. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #6
He needs to reach out to his own side leftstreet Mar 2025 #9
BINGO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #36
How many Democratic voters were purged from the voter rolls RazorbackExpat Mar 2025 #93
How many? There should be a story on rejected ballots & why Callie1979 Mar 2025 #157
Sounds like an excellent topic for a Newsom podcast (instead of amplifying magats). Think. Again. Mar 2025 #177
Ding! Ding! Ding! orangecrush Mar 2025 #143
You're right. But then we're not allowed to go into any depth as to WHY Callie1979 Mar 2025 #158
We win big if someone can convert 5% of people who voted for trump. Have no idea if Newsom's approach will Silent Type Mar 2025 #47
Convert 5% of Trumpers, lose 20% of your base crimycarny Mar 2025 #130
I hope base is not that damn stupid. I'm not sure Newsom is our best bet, but it's not because he has Bannon on. Silent Type Mar 2025 #134
All I can say is that as a Newsom fan his recent pivots turn me off crimycarny Mar 2025 #137
We would win bigger if we got 5% of non-voters. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #178
Don't really care where they come from-x Potential voters or a small percentage that might vote Dem, Silent Type Mar 2025 #179
Yes, reaching out to non-voters who simply don't think about how politics affects them... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #181
He's taking it to Republicans. He's very good at this. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #7
Bannon isn't just a Republican. He's a Neo-Nazi. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #10
All Republicans are racist. Some don't try to hide it. But they are all racists. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #16
100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #37
Yes, he is Sugarcoated Mar 2025 #11
Totally agree. We only have to turn a few percentage points of trump voters. Something like this might Silent Type Mar 2025 #48
THIS! flamingdem Mar 2025 #54
And, Mump thinking he's Entitled to Steal our SS is Cha Mar 2025 #83
Trying to lose a primary? LeftInTX Mar 2025 #12
Not trying... succeeding!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #39
I'm not sure why either. I'm not ready to get too critical until I see how the approach works. Silent Type Mar 2025 #14
It's a third-way miscalculation. Frasier Balzov Mar 2025 #15
Taking himself out of the potential candidate pool for 2028 Arazi Mar 2025 #17
Newsom is not near a popular as some think CountAllVotes Mar 2025 #26
Agreed. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #40
OMFG. So many Dems have lost the plot. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #18
Trying to win back dweller Mar 2025 #19
I can think of several things but don't know if it is any of them, or an unnamed one. RockRaven Mar 2025 #20
Here is what he is doing.... chowder66 Mar 2025 #49
He knows that Americans like to be entertained and have no flamingdem Mar 2025 #55
I'm afraid you're right. The future of democracy has never looked so threatened. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #141
"It's time to answer the hard questions"?? (From your podcast link) red dog 1 Mar 2025 #73
Running for president Retrograde Mar 2025 #21
but the pivot to the center is supposed to happen _after_ you win the primary cadoman Mar 2025 #69
Proving he's absolutely clueless about who he needs to reach. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #22
What was so disastrous about it? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #27
Did you listen to it? He was all buddy with Charlie.nt Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #28
No. So it was disastrous because he was polite to Kirk? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #31
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-this-is-gavin-newsom-268904129/ Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #38
I prefer not to listen to Kirk. So you can't explain what you mean? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #43
Here's one I found but listen for yourself and make up your own mind. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #66
I want to know why you think it was "disastrous." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #72
It does just sound like he's going right into the fray and taking Nixie Mar 2025 #88
It was like listening to Eva Braun interview Hitler. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #95
Oh come on. Newsom was not being "Eva Braun." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #182
Wow, just wow. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #185
no, Gavin is NOT Eva Braun lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #201
Oh come on. She was a completely different person when she was with Gavin. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #202
After 30 seconds of that I couldn't listen any longer. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #41
Agreed. This is ridiculous. It would make a lot more sense to platform disaffected Trump voters tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #70
The make-or-break primary for any DNC candidate for the presidency is South Carolina Yavin4 Mar 2025 #23
African American women want someone who can win. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #24
But they will not vote for someone Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #29
Losing an election invites racists into the White House. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #33
They are also know when someone Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #97
It is about time Democrats took advantage of opportunities. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #119
I judge people by their associates Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #124
Bannon is not Newsom's associate. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #125
Associate as in dialogue with Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #127
It's a debate. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #133
You don't debate liars Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #166
All Republicans are liars. We can't give up debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #167
I am not a fan of Bernie Sanders Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #170
We voted for Biden because we TRUSTED him. Because he had Obama's back. tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #96
Yes, racism is deadly for people of color. That's why it's so important to win elections. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #117
The black folks, especially in regards to black men that voted for trump, were never going to vote for Democrats tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #190
Sadly, a black man I went to college with voted for Trump. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #199
*rump got 30% of the black male vote, it's never been that bad before questionseverything Mar 2025 #207
82% of black men voted for vice president Harris Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #209
That's not the number I have seen questionseverything Mar 2025 #210
Michigan , the middle eastern community was upset by Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #211
Jokes on me, for a minute I forgot there's virtually no chance of another free and fair election questionseverything Mar 2025 #218
I don't have answers Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #219
Biden didn't do what Newsom is doing. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #98
Newsom is not platforming them. They already have massive platforms. He is debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #118
Do you honestly think that debating fascists solves anything? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #121
Do you honestly think we can win elections without debating our opponents? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #126
What about the voter that abandon the party over Gaza? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #129
The FAFO is hitting those idiots pretty hard right now. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #132
So, we should reach out to Fascists but previous supporters who didn't vote bc of Gaza, those people can go FAFO. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #135
All working people who voted for Trump will get hit with FAFO. That's our opportunity to pounce. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #148
It doesn't, but no worries... there are so many qualified candidates ready to step up. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #42
Me too. Think he's terrific. yorkster Mar 2025 #50
Yes!! In hindsight, the campaign should have given Gov. Walz WAY more public exposure out on the campaign trail. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #59
Yes. Dynamic and very smart. Also funny. yorkster Mar 2025 #81
True on ALL three counts... would make an EXCELLENT candidate in 2028!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #89
I can't find this on his pod cast page or website. Tootbsb Mar 2025 #25
Same In It to Win It Mar 2025 #45
It's there now. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #91
He's telling us who he is, someone who should never be president Hassler Mar 2025 #32
Newsom has been a great CA governor and would be a great president. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #57
Pandering to transphobic, racist antisemites Hassler Mar 2025 #64
It is not pandering to them. It is debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #67
There is no debating them anymore than Hassler Mar 2025 #71
Not debating is giving up. We can't just cede half the electorate to them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #74
What do you think debating Stephen Miller or Chump himself Hassler Mar 2025 #75
Trump has 34 convictions, is the biggest traitor of all, and Kamala debated him. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #76
Maybe if Newsome debated normy MAGAts. Hassler Mar 2025 #77
We can't wait for MAGAts to "crack" themselves. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #78
We live in a post debate world progressoid Mar 2025 #160
We will never live in a post debate world. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #161
OK. A post-fact world progressoid Mar 2025 #163
We must learn how to debate these assholes or we're done. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #168
Well, if we "debate" them the way Newsom does on his podcast, we are DEFINITELY done. progressoid Mar 2025 #169
What the fuck are you talking about? Newsom did great in that podcast with Bannon. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #174
Well the reviews tell another story. progressoid Mar 2025 #204
Those aren't "reviews," it doesn't sound like any of those people even listened to the whole podcast. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #208
HE'S NOT DEBATING THEM!!! ibegurpard Mar 2025 #146
Stop yelling. Newsom is not ceding ground. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #153
Listen to them here: progressoid Mar 2025 #164
Thanks for the link. Great show. Hope everyone listens to that! nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #173
You gotta get into their circles. It's one thing I like about Gavin Newsom. In It to Win It Mar 2025 #44
Misreading the electorate kansasobama Mar 2025 #46
Trump gained 4% among independents. We need them back. That's the point. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #51
Newsom needs to fight against untruths in these poscasts kansasobama Mar 2025 #106
This idea of playing nice with the other side won't work. totodeinhere Mar 2025 #52
Newsom is debating them, not "cozying up" to them. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #58
Perhaps he's trying to revive the Third Way. Shipwack Mar 2025 #53
Aren't people always demanding Democrats do something JI7 Mar 2025 #56
He's not courting me because he thinks my vote is in the bag. It's not. nt Blasphemer Mar 2025 #60
If you're going into the lion's den ibegurpard Mar 2025 #61
this. FirstLight Mar 2025 #82
IT SIMPLE ,,, THEY ARE TRYING TO SHOW WHO IS WHO YoshidaYui Mar 2025 #63
Well spotted, Yui Hekate Mar 2025 #86
Agree Hekate and Yui Pachamama Mar 2025 #128
And my God do people here get hysterical, & SO eager to throw our own under the bus Hekate Mar 2025 #151
Couldn't agree more. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #154
What is he doing? angrychair Mar 2025 #65
He is one of the dems who is genuinely trying AlexSFCA Mar 2025 #68
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it!" - Carlin n/t flvegan Mar 2025 #79
Disqualifying Himself JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #80
"Platforming"? No, interviewing. As always, never give Democrats the benefit of the doubt and assume bad betsuni Mar 2025 #84
He's trying out some new things to see what works. He's still young, & he's an ambitious pol Hekate Mar 2025 #85
Ffffffuck, there are more dems who didn't vote than could be picked up on MAGA's side. It's cheaper and easier to ... uponit7771 Mar 2025 #87
And why didn't they show up for Harris? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #122
Thx for this, figured the M$M was involved even on the democratic party side. uponit7771 Mar 2025 #212
+1 leftstreet Mar 2025 #131
LMAO aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #90
The reichwing is already getting more airtime than he could possibly give them with his little-known podcast. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #123
So, no talking it out with the left? aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #149
We're already talking to "the left." Navel gazing alone won't get us the win. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #150
What left guests is he having on? n/t aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #162
He started his podcast to address MAGA. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #165
Pandering. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #94
I'm guessing he's trying to reach out to Joe Rogan type voters Quiet Em Mar 2025 #99
God help us if he's the nominee. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #100
I agree. He is my Governor, and I have no problem with that, but I do not think he can win a National Presidential JohnSJ Mar 2025 #102
He's my governor too. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #105
Agreed. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #107
Wouldnt be surprised if they're building up his profiile so he wins the nomination and they can run against him. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #109
I think there will be plenty of competition for the nomination, and I do not think anyone has it in the bag. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #110
I wonder if he paid a visit to Merde-a-Loco?? nt NEOH Mar 2025 #101
Opposition research? SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #103
Gavin smiles while Steve looks like a serial killer. Omnipresent Mar 2025 #108
I have no interest in whatever he is doing. milestogo Mar 2025 #111
He is leading a huge DiverDave Mar 2025 #112
He's trying to be Pete Buttigieg, or a weak copy of him pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #113
Exactly ibegurpard Mar 2025 #147
Once again the responses here make me think he might be on the right track. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #116
Perfectly okay, we need people who can 1. Talk to these people and JCMach1 Mar 2025 #120
He's not turning them ibegurpard Mar 2025 #145
Trying to set himself up as Dem. Presidential Canidate in 2028. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #136
He just lost my vote pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #156
You phrased it perfectly. Now I'll go see if anyone has an answer. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #138
WTAF??? orangecrush Mar 2025 #142
Running for President? mzmolly Mar 2025 #152
Bannon hates Musk.... AkFemDem Mar 2025 #155
IMHO Rainman4u2C Mar 2025 #159
At this point, I think we have lost the plot pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #171
Maybe he's trying to reach the right? iemanja Mar 2025 #172
What exactly is the point of reaching the right ibegurpard Mar 2025 #175
To win a fucking election. iemanja Mar 2025 #187
So you can then enact the right wing policy ibegurpard Mar 2025 #188
NO iemanja Mar 2025 #194
What group do you want to Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #184
Why does he have to throw anyone under the bus? iemanja Mar 2025 #186
Charlie Kirk is offensive to people of color Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #189
No, it isn't iemanja Mar 2025 #192
I didn't have a problem with Liz Cheney Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #198
Except he's not doing that ibegurpard Mar 2025 #191
That depends on what he says. iemanja Mar 2025 #193
I guess you're just arguing for argument's sake ibegurpard Mar 2025 #195
When will he invite a Liberal or a leftist on? SunImp Mar 2025 #183
Good question. Is he going to invite Nina Turner? Or is it just about reaching out to RW bigots? tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #196
I'm not a fan of Brianna or Nina, but they at least don't want people dead or are anti trans bigots SunImp Mar 2025 #197
He beat the crap out DeSatan when they debated. Xolodno Mar 2025 #200
I've seen him with... Mike Nelson Mar 2025 #203
Speaking plainly about this is discouraged. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #205
I don't know but he is a definite no for me now for President! Meowmee Mar 2025 #206
He's singing the jaunty tune "Hip Hooray for Neville Chamberlain" JHB Mar 2025 #213
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