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tulipsandroses

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96. We voted for Biden because we TRUSTED him. Because he had Obama's back.

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 09:46 AM

Mar 2025

At this very moment, he is showing us that he cannot be trusted. We are organizing in record numbers right now. Win with black women, the first organization to boost VP Harris the moment it was announced she would run, organized Turn The TV Off movement. - WE are boycotting MSNBC. National Urban League went to court to fight trump's racist DEI bullshit. Pastor Bryant is leading the 40 Day Target Fast and there are a number of other black organizations right now doing the work and fighting hard. Trust and believe that we are not going to just vote for anyone. Any democrat that believes that, really needs to take a look at how we are organizing right now and the work that we are doing. WE understand that racism may make some uncomfortable, but for us it is dangerous. Our lives and our children's lives are at stake. Big mistake to take our votes for granted.

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What the fuck is Gavin Newsom doing? [View all] Self Esteem Mar 2025 OP

The answer is: pandering. choie Mar 2025 #1

Maybe the same thing Pete Buttigege is doing by regularly going on Fox. Sogo Mar 2025 #2

Here's the kicker: Steven Bannon is too crazy for FOX News. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #5

Pete is better at controlling the narrative. nt dflprincess Mar 2025 #8

Yep Rebl2 Mar 2025 #104

I disagree Grenouille50 Mar 2025 #30

Which is also a bad idea... why give Fux Witda News any credibility?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #34

because we need to reach the people in the bubble MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #62

No we don't need to reach republicans... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #176

Of course we need to reach Republicans that actually vote MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #214

No, republicans will rarely change to vote Dem... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #215

This is not a usual circumstance. Rare doesn't mean never. And people MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #216

I totally agree with MadamButterfly (#62). I'm hoping this thread will give ... LAS14 Mar 2025 #140

Thanks but MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #217

There's a difference between using your own platform to give fascists a chance to make their case and going on Fox WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #92

This right here. pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #115

Except Pete is a master at controlling the narrative pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #114

Can you imagine Buttigieg participating in a visual like that one? nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #139

He really thinks he's gonna be president and somehow making nice with authoritarian fascists Carlitos Brigante Mar 2025 #3

+1 leftstreet Mar 2025 #13

Zero chance!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #35

That's not what he's thinking. FFS. themaguffin Mar 2025 #144

Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #180

I think he's trying to see if he can reach people on chowder66 Mar 2025 #4

The people who know and listen to Bannon are Neo-Nazis. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #6

He needs to reach out to his own side leftstreet Mar 2025 #9

BINGO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #36

How many Democratic voters were purged from the voter rolls RazorbackExpat Mar 2025 #93

How many? There should be a story on rejected ballots & why Callie1979 Mar 2025 #157

Sounds like an excellent topic for a Newsom podcast (instead of amplifying magats). Think. Again. Mar 2025 #177

Ding! Ding! Ding! orangecrush Mar 2025 #143

You're right. But then we're not allowed to go into any depth as to WHY Callie1979 Mar 2025 #158

We win big if someone can convert 5% of people who voted for trump. Have no idea if Newsom's approach will Silent Type Mar 2025 #47

Convert 5% of Trumpers, lose 20% of your base crimycarny Mar 2025 #130

I hope base is not that damn stupid. I'm not sure Newsom is our best bet, but it's not because he has Bannon on. Silent Type Mar 2025 #134

All I can say is that as a Newsom fan his recent pivots turn me off crimycarny Mar 2025 #137

We would win bigger if we got 5% of non-voters. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #178

Don't really care where they come from-x Potential voters or a small percentage that might vote Dem, Silent Type Mar 2025 #179

Yes, reaching out to non-voters who simply don't think about how politics affects them... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #181

He's taking it to Republicans. He's very good at this. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #7

Bannon isn't just a Republican. He's a Neo-Nazi. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #10

All Republicans are racist. Some don't try to hide it. But they are all racists. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #16

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #37

Yes, he is Sugarcoated Mar 2025 #11

Totally agree. We only have to turn a few percentage points of trump voters. Something like this might Silent Type Mar 2025 #48

THIS! flamingdem Mar 2025 #54

And, Mump thinking he's Entitled to Steal our SS is Cha Mar 2025 #83

Trying to lose a primary? LeftInTX Mar 2025 #12

Not trying... succeeding!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #39

I'm not sure why either. I'm not ready to get too critical until I see how the approach works. Silent Type Mar 2025 #14

It's a third-way miscalculation. Frasier Balzov Mar 2025 #15

Taking himself out of the potential candidate pool for 2028 Arazi Mar 2025 #17

Newsom is not near a popular as some think CountAllVotes Mar 2025 #26

Agreed. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #40

OMFG. So many Dems have lost the plot. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #18

Trying to win back dweller Mar 2025 #19

I can think of several things but don't know if it is any of them, or an unnamed one. RockRaven Mar 2025 #20

Here is what he is doing.... chowder66 Mar 2025 #49

He knows that Americans like to be entertained and have no flamingdem Mar 2025 #55

I'm afraid you're right. The future of democracy has never looked so threatened. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #141

"It's time to answer the hard questions"?? (From your podcast link) red dog 1 Mar 2025 #73

Running for president Retrograde Mar 2025 #21

but the pivot to the center is supposed to happen _after_ you win the primary cadoman Mar 2025 #69

Proving he's absolutely clueless about who he needs to reach. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #22

What was so disastrous about it? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #27

Did you listen to it? He was all buddy with Charlie.nt Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #28

No. So it was disastrous because he was polite to Kirk? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #31

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-this-is-gavin-newsom-268904129/ Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #38

I prefer not to listen to Kirk. So you can't explain what you mean? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #43

Here's one I found but listen for yourself and make up your own mind. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #66

I want to know why you think it was "disastrous." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #72

It does just sound like he's going right into the fray and taking Nixie Mar 2025 #88

It was like listening to Eva Braun interview Hitler. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #95

Oh come on. Newsom was not being "Eva Braun." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #182

Wow, just wow. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #185

no, Gavin is NOT Eva Braun lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #201

Oh come on. She was a completely different person when she was with Gavin. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #202

After 30 seconds of that I couldn't listen any longer. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #41

Agreed. This is ridiculous. It would make a lot more sense to platform disaffected Trump voters tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #70

The make-or-break primary for any DNC candidate for the presidency is South Carolina Yavin4 Mar 2025 #23

African American women want someone who can win. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #24

But they will not vote for someone Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #29

Losing an election invites racists into the White House. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #33

They are also know when someone Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #97

It is about time Democrats took advantage of opportunities. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #119

I judge people by their associates Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #124

Bannon is not Newsom's associate. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #125

Associate as in dialogue with Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #127

It's a debate. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #133

You don't debate liars Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #166

All Republicans are liars. We can't give up debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #167

I am not a fan of Bernie Sanders Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #170

We voted for Biden because we TRUSTED him. Because he had Obama's back. tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #96

Yes, racism is deadly for people of color. That's why it's so important to win elections. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #117

The black folks, especially in regards to black men that voted for trump, were never going to vote for Democrats tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #190

Sadly, a black man I went to college with voted for Trump. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #199

*rump got 30% of the black male vote, it's never been that bad before questionseverything Mar 2025 #207

82% of black men voted for vice president Harris Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #209

That's not the number I have seen questionseverything Mar 2025 #210

Michigan , the middle eastern community was upset by Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #211

Jokes on me, for a minute I forgot there's virtually no chance of another free and fair election questionseverything Mar 2025 #218

I don't have answers Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #219

Biden didn't do what Newsom is doing. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #98

Newsom is not platforming them. They already have massive platforms. He is debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #118

Do you honestly think that debating fascists solves anything? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #121

Do you honestly think we can win elections without debating our opponents? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #126

What about the voter that abandon the party over Gaza? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #129

The FAFO is hitting those idiots pretty hard right now. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #132

So, we should reach out to Fascists but previous supporters who didn't vote bc of Gaza, those people can go FAFO. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #135

All working people who voted for Trump will get hit with FAFO. That's our opportunity to pounce. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #148

It doesn't, but no worries... there are so many qualified candidates ready to step up. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #42

Me too. Think he's terrific. yorkster Mar 2025 #50

Yes!! In hindsight, the campaign should have given Gov. Walz WAY more public exposure out on the campaign trail. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #59

Yes. Dynamic and very smart. Also funny. yorkster Mar 2025 #81

True on ALL three counts... would make an EXCELLENT candidate in 2028!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #89

I can't find this on his pod cast page or website. Tootbsb Mar 2025 #25

Same In It to Win It Mar 2025 #45

It's there now. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #91

He's telling us who he is, someone who should never be president Hassler Mar 2025 #32

Newsom has been a great CA governor and would be a great president. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #57

Pandering to transphobic, racist antisemites Hassler Mar 2025 #64

It is not pandering to them. It is debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #67

There is no debating them anymore than Hassler Mar 2025 #71

Not debating is giving up. We can't just cede half the electorate to them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #74

What do you think debating Stephen Miller or Chump himself Hassler Mar 2025 #75

Trump has 34 convictions, is the biggest traitor of all, and Kamala debated him. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #76

Maybe if Newsome debated normy MAGAts. Hassler Mar 2025 #77

We can't wait for MAGAts to "crack" themselves. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #78

We live in a post debate world progressoid Mar 2025 #160

We will never live in a post debate world. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #161

OK. A post-fact world progressoid Mar 2025 #163

We must learn how to debate these assholes or we're done. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #168

Well, if we "debate" them the way Newsom does on his podcast, we are DEFINITELY done. progressoid Mar 2025 #169

What the fuck are you talking about? Newsom did great in that podcast with Bannon. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #174

Well the reviews tell another story. progressoid Mar 2025 #204

Those aren't "reviews," it doesn't sound like any of those people even listened to the whole podcast. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #208

HE'S NOT DEBATING THEM!!! ibegurpard Mar 2025 #146

Stop yelling. Newsom is not ceding ground. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #153

Listen to them here: progressoid Mar 2025 #164

Thanks for the link. Great show. Hope everyone listens to that! nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #173

You gotta get into their circles. It's one thing I like about Gavin Newsom. In It to Win It Mar 2025 #44

Misreading the electorate kansasobama Mar 2025 #46

Trump gained 4% among independents. We need them back. That's the point. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #51

Newsom needs to fight against untruths in these poscasts kansasobama Mar 2025 #106

This idea of playing nice with the other side won't work. totodeinhere Mar 2025 #52

Newsom is debating them, not "cozying up" to them. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #58

Perhaps he's trying to revive the Third Way. Shipwack Mar 2025 #53

Aren't people always demanding Democrats do something JI7 Mar 2025 #56

He's not courting me because he thinks my vote is in the bag. It's not. nt Blasphemer Mar 2025 #60

If you're going into the lion's den ibegurpard Mar 2025 #61

this. FirstLight Mar 2025 #82

IT SIMPLE ,,, THEY ARE TRYING TO SHOW WHO IS WHO YoshidaYui Mar 2025 #63

Well spotted, Yui Hekate Mar 2025 #86

Agree Hekate and Yui Pachamama Mar 2025 #128

And my God do people here get hysterical, & SO eager to throw our own under the bus Hekate Mar 2025 #151

Couldn't agree more. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #154

What is he doing? angrychair Mar 2025 #65

He is one of the dems who is genuinely trying AlexSFCA Mar 2025 #68

"It's a big club, and you ain't in it!" - Carlin n/t flvegan Mar 2025 #79

Disqualifying Himself JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #80

"Platforming"? No, interviewing. As always, never give Democrats the benefit of the doubt and assume bad betsuni Mar 2025 #84

He's trying out some new things to see what works. He's still young, & he's an ambitious pol Hekate Mar 2025 #85

Ffffffuck, there are more dems who didn't vote than could be picked up on MAGA's side. It's cheaper and easier to ... uponit7771 Mar 2025 #87

And why didn't they show up for Harris? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #122

Thx for this, figured the M$M was involved even on the democratic party side. uponit7771 Mar 2025 #212

+1 leftstreet Mar 2025 #131

LMAO aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #90

The reichwing is already getting more airtime than he could possibly give them with his little-known podcast. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #123

So, no talking it out with the left? aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #149

We're already talking to "the left." Navel gazing alone won't get us the win. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #150

What left guests is he having on? n/t aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #162

He started his podcast to address MAGA. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #165

Pandering. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #94

I'm guessing he's trying to reach out to Joe Rogan type voters Quiet Em Mar 2025 #99

God help us if he's the nominee. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #100

I agree. He is my Governor, and I have no problem with that, but I do not think he can win a National Presidential JohnSJ Mar 2025 #102

He's my governor too. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #105

Agreed. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #107

Wouldnt be surprised if they're building up his profiile so he wins the nomination and they can run against him. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #109

I think there will be plenty of competition for the nomination, and I do not think anyone has it in the bag. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #110

I wonder if he paid a visit to Merde-a-Loco?? nt NEOH Mar 2025 #101

Opposition research? SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #103

Gavin smiles while Steve looks like a serial killer. Omnipresent Mar 2025 #108

I have no interest in whatever he is doing. milestogo Mar 2025 #111

He is leading a huge DiverDave Mar 2025 #112

He's trying to be Pete Buttigieg, or a weak copy of him pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #113

Exactly ibegurpard Mar 2025 #147

Once again the responses here make me think he might be on the right track. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #116

Perfectly okay, we need people who can 1. Talk to these people and JCMach1 Mar 2025 #120

He's not turning them ibegurpard Mar 2025 #145

Trying to set himself up as Dem. Presidential Canidate in 2028. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #136

He just lost my vote pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #156

You phrased it perfectly. Now I'll go see if anyone has an answer. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #138

WTAF??? orangecrush Mar 2025 #142

Running for President? mzmolly Mar 2025 #152

Bannon hates Musk.... AkFemDem Mar 2025 #155

IMHO Rainman4u2C Mar 2025 #159

At this point, I think we have lost the plot pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #171

Maybe he's trying to reach the right? iemanja Mar 2025 #172

What exactly is the point of reaching the right ibegurpard Mar 2025 #175

To win a fucking election. iemanja Mar 2025 #187

So you can then enact the right wing policy ibegurpard Mar 2025 #188

NO iemanja Mar 2025 #194

What group do you want to Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #184

Why does he have to throw anyone under the bus? iemanja Mar 2025 #186

Charlie Kirk is offensive to people of color Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #189

No, it isn't iemanja Mar 2025 #192

I didn't have a problem with Liz Cheney Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #198

Except he's not doing that ibegurpard Mar 2025 #191

That depends on what he says. iemanja Mar 2025 #193

I guess you're just arguing for argument's sake ibegurpard Mar 2025 #195

When will he invite a Liberal or a leftist on? SunImp Mar 2025 #183

Good question. Is he going to invite Nina Turner? Or is it just about reaching out to RW bigots? tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #196

I'm not a fan of Brianna or Nina, but they at least don't want people dead or are anti trans bigots SunImp Mar 2025 #197

He beat the crap out DeSatan when they debated. Xolodno Mar 2025 #200

I've seen him with... Mike Nelson Mar 2025 #203

Speaking plainly about this is discouraged. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #205

I don't know but he is a definite no for me now for President! Meowmee Mar 2025 #206

He's singing the jaunty tune "Hip Hooray for Neville Chamberlain" JHB Mar 2025 #213