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Keepthesoulalive

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124. I judge people by their associates

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:38 PM

Mar 2025

Steve Bannon helped elect trump the first time and also is a convicted felon. Tell me and show me where you stand on the issues. Right now I am not impressed.

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What the fuck is Gavin Newsom doing? [View all] Self Esteem Mar 2025 OP

The answer is: pandering. choie Mar 2025 #1

Maybe the same thing Pete Buttigege is doing by regularly going on Fox. Sogo Mar 2025 #2

Here's the kicker: Steven Bannon is too crazy for FOX News. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #5

Pete is better at controlling the narrative. nt dflprincess Mar 2025 #8

Yep Rebl2 Mar 2025 #104

I disagree Grenouille50 Mar 2025 #30

Which is also a bad idea... why give Fux Witda News any credibility?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #34

because we need to reach the people in the bubble MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #62

No we don't need to reach republicans... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #176

Of course we need to reach Republicans that actually vote MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #214

No, republicans will rarely change to vote Dem... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #215

This is not a usual circumstance. Rare doesn't mean never. And people MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #216

I totally agree with MadamButterfly (#62). I'm hoping this thread will give ... LAS14 Mar 2025 #140

Thanks but MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #217

There's a difference between using your own platform to give fascists a chance to make their case and going on Fox WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #92

This right here. pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #115

Except Pete is a master at controlling the narrative pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #114

Can you imagine Buttigieg participating in a visual like that one? nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #139

He really thinks he's gonna be president and somehow making nice with authoritarian fascists Carlitos Brigante Mar 2025 #3

+1 leftstreet Mar 2025 #13

Zero chance!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #35

That's not what he's thinking. FFS. themaguffin Mar 2025 #144

Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #180

I think he's trying to see if he can reach people on chowder66 Mar 2025 #4

The people who know and listen to Bannon are Neo-Nazis. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #6

He needs to reach out to his own side leftstreet Mar 2025 #9

BINGO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #36

How many Democratic voters were purged from the voter rolls RazorbackExpat Mar 2025 #93

How many? There should be a story on rejected ballots & why Callie1979 Mar 2025 #157

Sounds like an excellent topic for a Newsom podcast (instead of amplifying magats). Think. Again. Mar 2025 #177

Ding! Ding! Ding! orangecrush Mar 2025 #143

You're right. But then we're not allowed to go into any depth as to WHY Callie1979 Mar 2025 #158

We win big if someone can convert 5% of people who voted for trump. Have no idea if Newsom's approach will Silent Type Mar 2025 #47

Convert 5% of Trumpers, lose 20% of your base crimycarny Mar 2025 #130

I hope base is not that damn stupid. I'm not sure Newsom is our best bet, but it's not because he has Bannon on. Silent Type Mar 2025 #134

All I can say is that as a Newsom fan his recent pivots turn me off crimycarny Mar 2025 #137

We would win bigger if we got 5% of non-voters. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #178

Don't really care where they come from-x Potential voters or a small percentage that might vote Dem, Silent Type Mar 2025 #179

Yes, reaching out to non-voters who simply don't think about how politics affects them... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #181

He's taking it to Republicans. He's very good at this. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #7

Bannon isn't just a Republican. He's a Neo-Nazi. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #10

All Republicans are racist. Some don't try to hide it. But they are all racists. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #16

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #37

Yes, he is Sugarcoated Mar 2025 #11

Totally agree. We only have to turn a few percentage points of trump voters. Something like this might Silent Type Mar 2025 #48

THIS! flamingdem Mar 2025 #54

And, Mump thinking he's Entitled to Steal our SS is Cha Mar 2025 #83

Trying to lose a primary? LeftInTX Mar 2025 #12

Not trying... succeeding!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #39

I'm not sure why either. I'm not ready to get too critical until I see how the approach works. Silent Type Mar 2025 #14

It's a third-way miscalculation. Frasier Balzov Mar 2025 #15

Taking himself out of the potential candidate pool for 2028 Arazi Mar 2025 #17

Newsom is not near a popular as some think CountAllVotes Mar 2025 #26

Agreed. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #40

OMFG. So many Dems have lost the plot. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #18

Trying to win back dweller Mar 2025 #19

I can think of several things but don't know if it is any of them, or an unnamed one. RockRaven Mar 2025 #20

Here is what he is doing.... chowder66 Mar 2025 #49

He knows that Americans like to be entertained and have no flamingdem Mar 2025 #55

I'm afraid you're right. The future of democracy has never looked so threatened. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #141

"It's time to answer the hard questions"?? (From your podcast link) red dog 1 Mar 2025 #73

Running for president Retrograde Mar 2025 #21

but the pivot to the center is supposed to happen _after_ you win the primary cadoman Mar 2025 #69

Proving he's absolutely clueless about who he needs to reach. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #22

What was so disastrous about it? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #27

Did you listen to it? He was all buddy with Charlie.nt Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #28

No. So it was disastrous because he was polite to Kirk? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #31

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-this-is-gavin-newsom-268904129/ Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #38

I prefer not to listen to Kirk. So you can't explain what you mean? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #43

Here's one I found but listen for yourself and make up your own mind. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #66

I want to know why you think it was "disastrous." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #72

It does just sound like he's going right into the fray and taking Nixie Mar 2025 #88

It was like listening to Eva Braun interview Hitler. Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #95

Oh come on. Newsom was not being "Eva Braun." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #182

Wow, just wow. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #185

no, Gavin is NOT Eva Braun lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #201

Oh come on. She was a completely different person when she was with Gavin. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #202

After 30 seconds of that I couldn't listen any longer. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #41

Agreed. This is ridiculous. It would make a lot more sense to platform disaffected Trump voters tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #70

The make-or-break primary for any DNC candidate for the presidency is South Carolina Yavin4 Mar 2025 #23

African American women want someone who can win. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #24

But they will not vote for someone Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #29

Losing an election invites racists into the White House. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #33

They are also know when someone Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #97

It is about time Democrats took advantage of opportunities. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #119

I judge people by their associates Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #124

Bannon is not Newsom's associate. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #125

Associate as in dialogue with Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #127

It's a debate. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #133

You don't debate liars Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #166

All Republicans are liars. We can't give up debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #167

I am not a fan of Bernie Sanders Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #170

We voted for Biden because we TRUSTED him. Because he had Obama's back. tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #96

Yes, racism is deadly for people of color. That's why it's so important to win elections. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #117

The black folks, especially in regards to black men that voted for trump, were never going to vote for Democrats tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #190

Sadly, a black man I went to college with voted for Trump. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #199

*rump got 30% of the black male vote, it's never been that bad before questionseverything Mar 2025 #207

82% of black men voted for vice president Harris Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #209

That's not the number I have seen questionseverything Mar 2025 #210

Michigan , the middle eastern community was upset by Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #211

Jokes on me, for a minute I forgot there's virtually no chance of another free and fair election questionseverything Mar 2025 #218

I don't have answers Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #219

Biden didn't do what Newsom is doing. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #98

Newsom is not platforming them. They already have massive platforms. He is debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #118

Do you honestly think that debating fascists solves anything? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #121

Do you honestly think we can win elections without debating our opponents? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #126

What about the voter that abandon the party over Gaza? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #129

The FAFO is hitting those idiots pretty hard right now. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #132

So, we should reach out to Fascists but previous supporters who didn't vote bc of Gaza, those people can go FAFO. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #135

All working people who voted for Trump will get hit with FAFO. That's our opportunity to pounce. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #148

It doesn't, but no worries... there are so many qualified candidates ready to step up. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #42

Me too. Think he's terrific. yorkster Mar 2025 #50

Yes!! In hindsight, the campaign should have given Gov. Walz WAY more public exposure out on the campaign trail. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #59

Yes. Dynamic and very smart. Also funny. yorkster Mar 2025 #81

True on ALL three counts... would make an EXCELLENT candidate in 2028!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #89

I can't find this on his pod cast page or website. Tootbsb Mar 2025 #25

Same In It to Win It Mar 2025 #45

It's there now. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #91

He's telling us who he is, someone who should never be president Hassler Mar 2025 #32

Newsom has been a great CA governor and would be a great president. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #57

Pandering to transphobic, racist antisemites Hassler Mar 2025 #64

It is not pandering to them. It is debating them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #67

There is no debating them anymore than Hassler Mar 2025 #71

Not debating is giving up. We can't just cede half the electorate to them. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #74

What do you think debating Stephen Miller or Chump himself Hassler Mar 2025 #75

Trump has 34 convictions, is the biggest traitor of all, and Kamala debated him. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #76

Maybe if Newsome debated normy MAGAts. Hassler Mar 2025 #77

We can't wait for MAGAts to "crack" themselves. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #78

We live in a post debate world progressoid Mar 2025 #160

We will never live in a post debate world. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #161

OK. A post-fact world progressoid Mar 2025 #163

We must learn how to debate these assholes or we're done. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #168

Well, if we "debate" them the way Newsom does on his podcast, we are DEFINITELY done. progressoid Mar 2025 #169

What the fuck are you talking about? Newsom did great in that podcast with Bannon. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #174

Well the reviews tell another story. progressoid Mar 2025 #204

Those aren't "reviews," it doesn't sound like any of those people even listened to the whole podcast. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #208

HE'S NOT DEBATING THEM!!! ibegurpard Mar 2025 #146

Stop yelling. Newsom is not ceding ground. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #153

Listen to them here: progressoid Mar 2025 #164

Thanks for the link. Great show. Hope everyone listens to that! nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #173

You gotta get into their circles. It's one thing I like about Gavin Newsom. In It to Win It Mar 2025 #44

Misreading the electorate kansasobama Mar 2025 #46

Trump gained 4% among independents. We need them back. That's the point. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #51

Newsom needs to fight against untruths in these poscasts kansasobama Mar 2025 #106

This idea of playing nice with the other side won't work. totodeinhere Mar 2025 #52

Newsom is debating them, not "cozying up" to them. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #58

Perhaps he's trying to revive the Third Way. Shipwack Mar 2025 #53

Aren't people always demanding Democrats do something JI7 Mar 2025 #56

He's not courting me because he thinks my vote is in the bag. It's not. nt Blasphemer Mar 2025 #60

If you're going into the lion's den ibegurpard Mar 2025 #61

this. FirstLight Mar 2025 #82

IT SIMPLE ,,, THEY ARE TRYING TO SHOW WHO IS WHO YoshidaYui Mar 2025 #63

Well spotted, Yui Hekate Mar 2025 #86

Agree Hekate and Yui Pachamama Mar 2025 #128

And my God do people here get hysterical, & SO eager to throw our own under the bus Hekate Mar 2025 #151

Couldn't agree more. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #154

What is he doing? angrychair Mar 2025 #65

He is one of the dems who is genuinely trying AlexSFCA Mar 2025 #68

"It's a big club, and you ain't in it!" - Carlin n/t flvegan Mar 2025 #79

Disqualifying Himself JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #80

"Platforming"? No, interviewing. As always, never give Democrats the benefit of the doubt and assume bad betsuni Mar 2025 #84

He's trying out some new things to see what works. He's still young, & he's an ambitious pol Hekate Mar 2025 #85

Ffffffuck, there are more dems who didn't vote than could be picked up on MAGA's side. It's cheaper and easier to ... uponit7771 Mar 2025 #87

And why didn't they show up for Harris? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #122

Thx for this, figured the M$M was involved even on the democratic party side. uponit7771 Mar 2025 #212

+1 leftstreet Mar 2025 #131

LMAO aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #90

The reichwing is already getting more airtime than he could possibly give them with his little-known podcast. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #123

So, no talking it out with the left? aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #149

We're already talking to "the left." Navel gazing alone won't get us the win. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #150

What left guests is he having on? n/t aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #162

He started his podcast to address MAGA. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #165

Pandering. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #94

I'm guessing he's trying to reach out to Joe Rogan type voters Quiet Em Mar 2025 #99

God help us if he's the nominee. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #100

I agree. He is my Governor, and I have no problem with that, but I do not think he can win a National Presidential JohnSJ Mar 2025 #102

He's my governor too. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #105

Agreed. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #107

Wouldnt be surprised if they're building up his profiile so he wins the nomination and they can run against him. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #109

I think there will be plenty of competition for the nomination, and I do not think anyone has it in the bag. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #110

I wonder if he paid a visit to Merde-a-Loco?? nt NEOH Mar 2025 #101

Opposition research? SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #103

Gavin smiles while Steve looks like a serial killer. Omnipresent Mar 2025 #108

I have no interest in whatever he is doing. milestogo Mar 2025 #111

He is leading a huge DiverDave Mar 2025 #112

He's trying to be Pete Buttigieg, or a weak copy of him pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #113

Exactly ibegurpard Mar 2025 #147

Once again the responses here make me think he might be on the right track. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #116

Perfectly okay, we need people who can 1. Talk to these people and JCMach1 Mar 2025 #120

He's not turning them ibegurpard Mar 2025 #145

Trying to set himself up as Dem. Presidential Canidate in 2028. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #136

He just lost my vote pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #156

You phrased it perfectly. Now I'll go see if anyone has an answer. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #138

WTAF??? orangecrush Mar 2025 #142

Running for President? mzmolly Mar 2025 #152

Bannon hates Musk.... AkFemDem Mar 2025 #155

IMHO Rainman4u2C Mar 2025 #159

At this point, I think we have lost the plot pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #171

Maybe he's trying to reach the right? iemanja Mar 2025 #172

What exactly is the point of reaching the right ibegurpard Mar 2025 #175

To win a fucking election. iemanja Mar 2025 #187

So you can then enact the right wing policy ibegurpard Mar 2025 #188

NO iemanja Mar 2025 #194

What group do you want to Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #184

Why does he have to throw anyone under the bus? iemanja Mar 2025 #186

Charlie Kirk is offensive to people of color Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #189

No, it isn't iemanja Mar 2025 #192

I didn't have a problem with Liz Cheney Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #198

Except he's not doing that ibegurpard Mar 2025 #191

That depends on what he says. iemanja Mar 2025 #193

I guess you're just arguing for argument's sake ibegurpard Mar 2025 #195

When will he invite a Liberal or a leftist on? SunImp Mar 2025 #183

Good question. Is he going to invite Nina Turner? Or is it just about reaching out to RW bigots? tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #196

I'm not a fan of Brianna or Nina, but they at least don't want people dead or are anti trans bigots SunImp Mar 2025 #197

He beat the crap out DeSatan when they debated. Xolodno Mar 2025 #200

I've seen him with... Mike Nelson Mar 2025 #203

Speaking plainly about this is discouraged. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #205

I don't know but he is a definite no for me now for President! Meowmee Mar 2025 #206

He's singing the jaunty tune "Hip Hooray for Neville Chamberlain" JHB Mar 2025 #213