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lapucelle

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137. Sorry, but I don't take Trump's "praise" of Democrats at face value.

Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:53 PM

Mar 2025

He's trolling Schumer with fake praise the same way he has trolled AOC with fake praise in the past. Are all cases of Trump gratuitously praising Democrats "unforgivable" or only some?

As for

HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS LOOK TO ANY RATIONAL PERSON?

It probably looks like Schumer re-evaluated and changed course.

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Schumer made the smart move. [View all] lapucelle Mar 2025 OP

I assumed that Schumer weighed all the options and did what he thought was right. I don't think he did it on a whim. Walleye Mar 2025 #1

Not a single House Democrat owns any part of the CR. Their hands are clean. lapucelle Mar 2025 #8

Definitely a hostage situation. Trump loves this so he can gloat afterwards. Apparently it's all he lives for. Walleye Mar 2025 #59

And causing demonstrations DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #75

Oh yeah, I'm sure he's thinking about that. Moving on us like a bitch. Walleye Mar 2025 #95

There was a video on TV DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #162

He's probably already planning his Fourth of July parade with tanks rolling down Pennsylvania AvenueI'm Walleye Mar 2025 #166

Not even possible Mountainguy Mar 2025 #194

Very interesting, thanks for insight pattyloutwo Mar 2025 #195

I agree Mtnmama Mar 2025 #102

No, you're not missing anything angrychair Mar 2025 #145

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #209

I think so XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #2

The problem with this is that the next budget (September) will be much worse Polybius Mar 2025 #3

Maybe, that is hard to tell at this point. A lot is going to happen between now and then. 33taw Mar 2025 #7

They don't need help the next time FBaggins Mar 2025 #29

+1, The OP leaves out the biggest take is this vote was our only leverage politically uponit7771 Mar 2025 #88

I don't agree - our leverage was peeling off house republicans FBaggins Mar 2025 #101

Quinnipac poll put shutdown squarely on MAGA/Trump ...those were the facts we had uponit7771 Mar 2025 #108

There's no way that would stick FBaggins Mar 2025 #114

That's speculation that doesn't match up historically, few times has Americans switch blame over time cause one ... uponit7771 Mar 2025 #141

Historically? FBaggins Mar 2025 #150

The poll question itself was speculative, and the Trump/Republican message that Democrats were to blame lapucelle Mar 2025 #174

Actually 32% of the respondents were ready to blame congressional Democrats. lapucelle Mar 2025 #175

By right move do you mean announcing your opposition to the bill Sneederbunk Mar 2025 #4

The right move was to not shut down the government, but thank you for your input. lapucelle Mar 2025 #12

While Trump and Musk shut it down anyway? SergeStorms Mar 2025 #64

Those clean hands will help us win special elections and take back the House in 2026. lapucelle Mar 2025 #67

Most Americans blamed Trump/MAGA for shutdown... This makes no sense in regards to political consequences uponit7771 Mar 2025 #92

In the abstract, in one poll taken before any shutdown had occurred, the majority would have blamed Trump or Republicans lapucelle Mar 2025 #109

Enron and Putin's Puppet is going to slash government anyway might as well impose severe political cost on them ... uponit7771 Mar 2025 #143

How many times did potus trump shut down the government as 45? Who is currently in charge? krawhitham Mar 2025 #246

I think you can find that information on Google. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #252

If the country lasts that long. SergeStorms Mar 2025 #94

Win elections lol Hornedfrog2000 Mar 2025 #126

And the little leverage they had gutted by the "Yes" votes. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #81

But if they didin't vote "yes, then the GQP would say Bad Things 'Bout Dems. But now . . . hatrack Mar 2025 #84

I know. And by agreeing with hundreds of Democrats against 10, I'm told, we're just people Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #107

It would NOT have been shut down for weeks or months. Bengus81 Mar 2025 #241

I appreciate your post. It is sane. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #5

Trump wallows in chaos. A shut-down for him would be his greatest fantasy. lamp_shade Mar 2025 #6

So when does a meaningful stand happen? They continue virtually unabated....speed is the only variable. dutch777 Mar 2025 #9

I really tire of all this Republican-lite crap Bluetus Mar 2025 #76

Thank you! I am where you are-- tragically and sadly. I am looking into the Indivisible Project....gotta DO something! dutch777 Mar 2025 #177

And note that 7 of those 9 bastards ended up voting AGAINST the CR Bluetus Mar 2025 #183

When the price of Dry Powder moves beyond a certain $/ton figure, then - look out!!! hatrack Mar 2025 #90

Yeah, not quite sure what that price is indeed. Guess we are trying to corner the market...before we die on our knees. dutch777 Mar 2025 #178

So then why do you think all the other Dems who voted "no" were not convinced? Or do you believe them hlthe2b Mar 2025 #10

I'm sure that all the Democratic senators who voted against the CR will be releasing statements, but lapucelle Mar 2025 #16

Have the courts grown a new appendage willing to enforce their rulings? Magoo48 Mar 2025 #33

Your comment is best addressed to Senator Murphy who assumed that the Courts would remain open. lapucelle Mar 2025 #39

The courts are open and going through the motions, but without enforcement, what good are they? Magoo48 Mar 2025 #45

... lapucelle Mar 2025 #48

My apologies, all better now. Magoo48 Mar 2025 #57

Well that's reassuring. At this point the "the courts are useless" narrative is truly defeatist. lapucelle Mar 2025 #63

Two people, two different views of what's defeatist. Magoo48 Mar 2025 #79

Then by all means go out and convince the people not paying attention lapucelle Mar 2025 #120

Yes indeed Magoo48 Mar 2025 #172

Gee, one out of thousands. Color me impressed....not!!! ratchiweenie Mar 2025 #136

Not all of those who voted no were not convinced FBaggins Mar 2025 #31

Clean hands in a civil war. I think R's will do what they want. Hope22 Mar 2025 #11

I thought, CrispyQ Mar 2025 #32

I get a lot of $#it for my screen name!!! Hope22 Mar 2025 #35

By the time the 2026 elections come around the outrage and the pain totodeinhere Mar 2025 #38

I admire your hopeful nature. Hope22 Mar 2025 #44

You think Elon Musk stole the 2024 election? N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #55

I go by what TSF says Hope22 Mar 2025 #58

I like what you're saying here. bluestarone Mar 2025 #71

"Then we would have the votes to impeach and remove him." Wednesdays Mar 2025 #74

Yes we would need Republican votes. totodeinhere Mar 2025 #128

Like the Spanish Nationalist did circa 1937? uponit7771 Mar 2025 #96

I agree with this being his thought process EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #13

I have to reluctantly agree. His worshipers need to feel the pain of his policies. louis-t Mar 2025 #14

I don't disagree with the decision mcar Mar 2025 #15

I agree, but "Schumer Caved" is a better headline than "Senate Democrats Shut Down Government". lapucelle Mar 2025 #19

We've been keeping our powder dry for over four decades. -nt CrispyQ Mar 2025 #49

How so? That claim requires the assumption that Democrats have accomplished nothing since 1985. lapucelle Mar 2025 #52

Oh good grief, it doesn't mean that. It just means we've been going along to get along. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #65

So you didn't actually mean the thing that you said? lapucelle Mar 2025 #70

Whatthefuckever. You're exhausting. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #72

You know your business.. I find that Interesting.. Not "Exhausting. Cha Mar 2025 #133

My guess is that Trump would have been fine with a shutdown Buckeyeblue Mar 2025 #17

This infighting wouldn't have occurred if those who wanted to abolish the filibuster the last few years had prevailed MichMan Mar 2025 #18

I brought chairs. underpants Mar 2025 #20

Calling dibs on that blue one. tavernier Mar 2025 #50

Right on - love your graphic. waterwatcher123 Mar 2025 #160

Well he did go right. That part is right. William769 Mar 2025 #21

Thanks for the heads up. lapucelle Mar 2025 #23

He went futher right with his vote over the majority of Senate Democrats. William769 Mar 2025 #25

I agree. The House is in recess until March 24th underpants Mar 2025 #22

A government shutdown would open all eyes to cachukis Mar 2025 #24

This: They must be challenged now, not later. -nt CrispyQ Mar 2025 #34

I agree Andy823 Mar 2025 #26

Hmmmm. Trump has congratulated Schumer on doing the right thing. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #27

That should tell everyone what they need to know. SergeStorms Mar 2025 #99

Democrats should NOT have voted to give Trump the power to spend or withold funds as he sees fit. Martin Eden Mar 2025 #123

This will not be easily reversed. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #124

I think Schumer made the right move, too. Progressive dog Mar 2025 #28

The legality of his spending money he doesn't have the right to spend, doesn't change if the govt shuts down. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #40

Sigh planj07 Mar 2025 #41

Trump is congratulating him to help widen yorkster Mar 2025 #106

Political consequences for MAGA would be devastating, 53% of Americans already blamed them... uponit7771 Mar 2025 #105

Thank you!!!!! nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #30

Had a book tour starting Monday HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #36

Dems should have threatened a shut down from the start crud Mar 2025 #37

No Dem votes unless DOGE is shut down. This!! So much this!! CrispyQ Mar 2025 #42

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #227

Get back to me in three months... -misanthroptimist Mar 2025 #43

What power did Senate Democrats have to "fix those things"? lapucelle Mar 2025 #46

THis: "The only power Senate Democrats had was to shut down the government, and that move would have put Trump's OMB in Amaryllis Mar 2025 #82

Thank you for that. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #85

You're welcome, but which part? Amaryllis Mar 2025 #91

The part about Trump's OMB running the show during the shutdown. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #113

It wasnt OMB running teh show during the shutdown that made me change my mind; it was that OMB could run the show Amaryllis Mar 2025 #171

The ONLY way this ends is in the streets or the election booth lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #132

First off, I have no suspicions about you -misanthroptimist Mar 2025 #121

As a federal employee, I'm telling you he betrayed us miserably SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #47

Welcome to DU! lapucelle Mar 2025 #122

... SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #144

Sayanara orangecrush Mar 2025 #51

Imagine for a moment... lame54 Mar 2025 #53

"A shutdown would have played right into Trump's hands." tman Mar 2025 #54

Stop making so much sense. nt Wednesdays Mar 2025 #56

Thank you for that info! I've been wondering about the courts. CaptainTruth Mar 2025 #60

Has it stopped them so far? -nt CrispyQ Mar 2025 #68

You said this better than I did... Dem4life1970 Mar 2025 #61

Sometimes, the definition... oldsoldierfadingfast Mar 2025 #210

Does "business as usual" politics require even a tiny modicum of integrity? Ping Tung Mar 2025 #62

Shutting down the government would have been burning down the village to save it. lapucelle Mar 2025 #73

Yup. Instead, Democrats handed the arsonist the means and walked away... Self Esteem Mar 2025 #83

I don't think the money is going where you think it is Quanto Magnus Mar 2025 #66

You are wrong nakocal Mar 2025 #69

What are you talking about? That's the second time today that someone invoked a Hitler comparison lapucelle Mar 2025 #77

All this old girl can glean from this entire mess is Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #78

I know I feel comforted that 9 Dems and 1 Ind chose to defy 213 House Dems and 38 Senate Dems Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #80

And, somehow, stating that makes you someone who "is just complaining about Democrats!!1!" Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #89

Does it? I sure am not complaining about the 38 and 213. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #93

Yep. Exactly. But that's what I'm told by people who always insist that our Democratic leaders can do no wrong Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #98

Screw 'em. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #100

. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #103

They all could have done more to convince the rest lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #115

In all my years of seeing him in action I have never moniss Mar 2025 #86

On numerous occasions he has stood up for people on the (Wall) Street. /nt thought crime Mar 2025 #224

Since when has Trump ever failed to blame Democrats BlueKota Mar 2025 #87

Dead now,.dead later is still dead... JCMach1 Mar 2025 #97

Sure, if you're willing angrychair Mar 2025 #104

While I understand the desire to fight it out, I suspect you are right Maeve Mar 2025 #110

I think people who are killed off by the bad guys BlueKota Mar 2025 #116

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All of the negative outcomes lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #112

Thank you for acknowledging that "the Democrats folded like a cheap suit" is a Republican talking point. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #125

sooo what do YOU call it? lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #130

Sorry, but I don't take Trump's "praise" of Democrats at face value. lapucelle Mar 2025 #137

re-evaluated lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #138

Sorry, arguments predicated on the fallacy of eqivocation do not work on me lapucelle Mar 2025 #139

You are entrenched in your position lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #140

Closing the government would result in the government being dismantled at a quicker pace, lapucelle Mar 2025 #147

Nope. lees1975 Mar 2025 #117

What polls were quite clear on that? N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #127

Quinnipiac for one. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #146

That was the only one poll, and the picture was not quite as rosy as some made it out to be. lapucelle Mar 2025 #148

Yeah, I don't believe there were any other polls taken... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #149

Pro-tip: Read carefully. Don't answer questions when none were asked. It will save the embarrassment lapucelle Mar 2025 #152

My apologies, I was confused by the question mark at the end of... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #155

Apology accepted. Interesting hypothetical: Someone takes the liberty of answering for someone else, lapucelle Mar 2025 #156

Okey dokey Cirsium Mar 2025 #118

I disagree. DiamondShark Mar 2025 #119

Dangerously Stupid Take on the CR By Lapicelle King_Black_Mamba_248 Mar 2025 #129

Welcome to DU re your first post though you've been here a few months. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #161

Interesting, no? Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #167

Check the post recs. lapucelle Mar 2025 #180

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... lapucelle Mar 2025 #193

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i have a feeling that you will be tuned up shortly. n/t LuckyCharms Mar 2025 #199

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Hmmm...you sound nice. GP6971 Mar 2025 #202

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Well OK then. That settles that!!! Have we met before?? GP6971 Mar 2025 #204

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Yes... it's VERY interesting. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #197

Well, thank you, lapucelle! I think you're interesting too. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #205

You are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #208

Short Term vs. Long Term Terry_M Mar 2025 #131

What makes you think Republicans would cave? lapucelle Mar 2025 #179

There is a lot we don't know about either pain right Terry_M Mar 2025 #187

Schumer did prioritize the long term. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #192

Nice to see TransitJohn Mar 2025 #134

"A shutdown would have played right into Trump's hands." J_William_Ryan Mar 2025 #135

Where is the show of force? Where is the wiilingness to fight? ScubaDave Mar 2025 #142

He did what he thought was the best worse option Meowmee Mar 2025 #151

He did indeed, and he will take the heat. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #153

Explains for me. He needs to go. Blue Full Moon Mar 2025 #154

You should inform the donors whom you know professionally that the stock market is closed on Saturdays. lapucelle Mar 2025 #163

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #157

I'd prefer he hadn't, but those are good points. nilram Mar 2025 #158

Good bye Chuck. Thank you for your service. mikewv Mar 2025 #159

Totally agree ... nt Raine Mar 2025 #164

Puzzled Flux Mar 2025 #165

There is no way we want the courts shut down or any of our Nixie Mar 2025 #168

I've yet to hear an exit strategy from anyone who wanted to shut the government down. lapucelle Mar 2025 #176

Thank you, lapucelle. Your points are excellent. brer cat Mar 2025 #169

Schumer publicly started a civil war in the Democratic Party. If that's "Smart" I'd rather be lobotomized. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #170

It's already hell...how much more can the poor be burned Tribetime Mar 2025 #173

So when they put in a national abortion ban in the next extortion CR Dems will just auto vote for it? lark Mar 2025 #181

The problem remains the same the_liberal_grandpa Mar 2025 #182

Wholly Disagree -- Schumer's Top Donors Were Bleeding MARKET VALUE... All About The Benjamins... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #184

Schumer says he agrees with Trump's decision to pull $400 million from Columbia. MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #185

If you read the interview, he didn't actually say that. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #206

Thank You - Yes He Did Indeed Say That - And Worse... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #232

Nope. He didn't. I'm no fan of his right now, but he didn't say that. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #234

Well Dang... I Don't Want To Put Words In Schumer's Mouth MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #235

Read the interview. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #237

Senator Schumer didn't say that he agrees with Trump. lapucelle Mar 2025 #230

Happy Monday Y'all! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #231

The problem here wasn't with the shutdown vs. no shutdown showdown... Ol Janx Spirit Mar 2025 #188

GOP Senators Love Schumer's Choice For His Party And His Nation... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #189

Trump praised Schumer too. Emile Mar 2025 #190

Thank You For Saying So Emile. I Wholeheartedly Agree. MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #191

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Wanna bet? William769 Mar 2025 #214

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So do I. William769 Mar 2025 #216

Good for you!!! GP6971 Mar 2025 #219

Are you threatening me? sheshe2 Mar 2025 #217

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KayossZero is no longer with us. sheshe2 Mar 2025 #221

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OK then...a voice from the past!!!! GP6971 Mar 2025 #225

Back so soon!!! GP6971 Mar 2025 #218

That's something out of your control. GP6971 Mar 2025 #222

Has he stood before a mic and declared the orange convict and musky domestic enemies Hotler Mar 2025 #196

Discussions on this and other issues have shown me iemanja Mar 2025 #200

Could not disagree more... fighting for We The People is what wins elections!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #226

But claudette Mar 2025 #228

K&R betsuni Mar 2025 #229

Elon and Trump wanted the shut down. Democrats didn't give it to them. NowsTheTime Mar 2025 #233

If Trump wanted the shutdown he would have told Emile Mar 2025 #236

Makes sense...but he would have exploited the situation had the Dem's shut it down..would have been ugly NowsTheTime Mar 2025 #238

So what, he does that regardless. Trump got exactly what he wanted and Emile Mar 2025 #239

NO, Schumer picked the lesser of two bad choices. NowsTheTime Mar 2025 #240

I guess we all have an opinion. The good thing Emile Mar 2025 #242

Thanks! Yes we are. Having said what I did, I would like to see a stronger leader in the Senate. NowsTheTime Mar 2025 #245

The federal courts (including immigration courts) remain open, lapucelle Mar 2025 #248

If Trump wanted the government shutdown, he Emile Mar 2025 #249

He wanted the shutdown, but he wanted the Democrats to take the blame. lapucelle Mar 2025 #250

I don't buy that either. He would have blamed us Emile Mar 2025 #251

You are free to believe what you want to believe. lapucelle Mar 2025 #253

I know we're both Democrats with different views. Emile Mar 2025 #254

... lapucelle Mar 2025 #256

And he wouldn't have worked so hard to get it passed. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #243

+1 Emile Mar 2025 #244

Then only Republicans would have been blamed for the shutdown. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #247

So if there had been a shutdown and things got really bad intrepidity Mar 2025 #255

I think the media would have run with the "blame the Democrats" narrative. lapucelle Mar 2025 #258

A shutdown would have given musk/DOGE free reign to fire people and close offices LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #257

So Schumer stopped Trump and Musk, uh okay. . Emile Mar 2025 #259