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GreatGazoo

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23. A former floor trader said he thinks algos are behind the
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 07:15 PM
Mar 2025

very orderly run for the exits. In early March all three indexes would drop by the nearly same percentage day after day, about 0.5% Algos drive prices to even numbers which are tied to options trading.

SPY close $560 on 3/10
$555 on 3/11
$550 on 3/13, etc

I follow shipping. I was researching Henry Hudson and that period, 1570 to 1620 and had to learn a ton about shipping to understand Spain vs England vs France, routes to Cathay, piracy, arbitrage, all that. Dang little has changed in 400 years. Shipping is still the middle of the supply chains.

The plan is much more than tariffs -- million-dollar port fees, ship registry stuff, fleet building. What Trump wants to do can be done but it can't be done on Wednesday. You don't just order a fleet of ice breakers and LNG transport ships from Amazon Prime and have them show up in Greenland on Thursday. I lean toward those who believe that this will be a slower transition than the current hysteria conveys.

Trump will want something to start on Wednesday so I'm thinking it will be the least disruptive tariffs. Stuff that can be collected on and the shipments move and while other more critical supply chains have time to reconfigure. And it will be countries that he is mad at: French wine. Canadian food. Canola oil, Canadian soy, wheat and corn. Chinese EVs, solar panels, PPE.

ETA: This guy covers a lot. Too much perhaps but it is indexed and front loaded so the big developments are covered first:


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Will the stock market go level 3 Wednesday? [View all] Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2025 OP
All I know is, I was much better off on Jan 19th Emile Mar 2025 #1
Im down 20% due to tariff talk and indecision. OLDMDDEM Mar 2025 #17
Might be a big drop, but not that big.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #2
When I heard he was making it in Rose garden Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2025 #3
It'll be a bad day, but sentiment is already in the crapper....NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #4
Sentiment is very mixed but investors might still be net positive Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #13
I hadn't heard that. Thx. Any indication of scheduled time of day? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #10
I think we're yet to see the worse of these moron's unfettered tampering w/the Economy. For some reason, he seems to SWBTATTReg Mar 2025 #5
Economic choices are a great example of mass action. Also some hearsay tRump wants to drive dollar down Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #8
I don't have a crystal ball, but.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #19
Personally, I think what you're doing is smart. Let the chips fall, let the fallout hit, and then, just maybe, there SWBTATTReg Apr 2025 #29
One might think so, but the market seems to like emulating ostriches Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #6
I Guess No ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #7
Seems to have been goosed up about 2pm EDT today, perhaps some news crossed the wires? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #9
Could Be ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #20
I agree with all your points. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #21
2ET is a common bullish pivot point... today, institutions poured in to buy. WarGamer Mar 2025 #24
No. onenote Mar 2025 #11
That's up to the big money people Nigrum Cattus Mar 2025 #12
Arent the tariffs baked in at this point? Johonny Mar 2025 #14
I think the uncertainty is baked in & Apr 2 will not dispell all of it, but downside risks not baked in Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #16
I was worried that my financial consultant Johonny Mar 2025 #22
Maybe Diraven Mar 2025 #26
No. The big drops come from unexpected events GreatGazoo Mar 2025 #15
True, but I think markets are uncertain & a bit complacent, not realizing how much things have changed Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #18
A former floor trader said he thinks algos are behind the GreatGazoo Mar 2025 #23
Good post Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #25
I over simplified GreatGazoo Apr 2025 #28
Doubt it. it is not a surprising event. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #27
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