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meadowlander

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6. And lest we lose sight of the point entirely, 8 billion people is enough already.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:51 PM
Apr 2025

If the policy issue you're trying to solve is how to take care of aging people if the population is declining why not start with raising taxes noting the massive productivity increases of the past 40 years? Why not harness some of that to provide for retirement in dignity for the people who actually made it happen?

Do something about this:



If we as a society wanted to take care of the elderly, we could just choose to take care of the elderly and make cuts somewhere else like our bloated military or rescinding all the tax breaks for the rich and subsidies for people who probably don't actually need them.

We don't live on a planet that can sustain a paradigm of maximizing growth forever. And we're not going to be colonising Mars in vast numbers in the timeframes that Elon thinks we will be. So this pro-natalist bullshit is just throwing lighter fluid on the fire.

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Trump thinks everyone can be bought and sold for not much money. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #1
Right, 5k won't even cover the cost Luciferous Apr 2025 #2
Yes it's a drop in the bucket. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #5
Just the out of pocket costs Diraven Apr 2025 #3
Without insurance, the average cost in 2023 for a vaginal delivery with no complications was $28,655. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #10
And ... has anyone priced in the cost of prenatal care UpInArms Apr 2025 #4
It costs around $350,000 to get a child through age 18; $1 million for birth through college. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #12
And lest we lose sight of the point entirely, 8 billion people is enough already. meadowlander Apr 2025 #6
That sounds like SOSHALISM!!11 progressoid Apr 2025 #7
This is another attempt by DJT to keep women out Jrose Apr 2025 #8
"White" does not mean well-off and able to afford only one paycheck in this economy Hekate Apr 2025 #11
Here's another kicker for menstrual classes: apps that anyone can read that track ovulation... Hekate Apr 2025 #9
If I were a young woman now and I lived in a state with R government Diamond_Dog Apr 2025 #13
How very Nazi of him. alarimer Apr 2025 #14
And Hitler totally did AdamGG Apr 2025 #19
It might help... Chemical Bill Apr 2025 #15
Another objective of Project 2025 has hit the planning stage. Ilsa Apr 2025 #16
$5K swong19104 Apr 2025 #17
I've noticed he changes his mind a lot. 70sEraVet Apr 2025 #18
$5k a. month would do it for some. Aussie105 Apr 2025 #20
Maybe, if $5k was paid out monthly for at least 18 years. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #21
"Birthin' For Buck$" - Rump's latest reality show. nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 2025 #22
More like "Birthin' For Bupkis" - as anyone can tell you who knows how much it actually costs to raise a kid. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #24
Trump and the P25 crowd are 55 or 60 years too late to the party. valleyrogue Apr 2025 #23
Sounds like the dreaded welfare that the gop always loathed. lindysalsagal Apr 2025 #25
I say if men want more babies, let them try to create them themselves. Walleye Apr 2025 #26
Trump sees all women as hookers, they can be bought and sold to do his bidding. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #27
A thousand recs. Every word. yardwork Apr 2025 #28
You live in Southern California everybody everybody Apr 2025 #29
Um wut? I didn't write this. BTW, it does get cold in So. Cal. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #30
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