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RockRaven

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29. Also because they have little to no principles or factual basis, they will say anything

Mon May 5, 2025, 01:33 PM

May 5

to justify the hateful and bigoted conclusion that they begin with, just like their Dear Leader. It is totally pointless to attempt to have a substantive conversation with such people, there is no substance there worth the effort to find.

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Why I'm NOT interested in "listening" or "understanding" MAGA [View all] AStern May 5 OP

Thank you. My local npr station put on an hour of republicans as if they were normal. And cbabe May 5 #1

I care not for what nazis think. Basso8vb May 5 #2

It's akin to not listening to narcissists try to no_hypocrisy May 5 #3

Same here. Aristus May 5 #4

Me, too. I don't wanna hear their half assed reasons for voting R. However, I will gladly say to them: CTyankee May 5 #58

And it will blueseas May 5 #63

I just don't think they will awaken. It is the nature of a cult. AllyCat May 6 #72

If it's a waste of time, I wouldn't engage further. CTyankee May 6 #74

I could not agree with you more! Mountain Mule May 5 #60

And since when have MAGA or the GOP ever been interested thucythucy May 5 #5

Excellent. I agree. LoisB May 5 #6

My uncles understood people who defended similar beliefs. And they sent them all to early graves 80 years ago. Efilroft Sul May 5 #7

I do talk to MAGA every day and have all along. I listen to what they have to say. Midnight Writer May 5 #8

Might those people have different beliefs if their news sources were more like Reuters and CBS... Martin Eden May 5 #9

Most don't watch news or belong to a church. They listen to talk radio, Facebook, and prosperity Gospel. Midnight Writer May 5 #15

What we're really up against is decades of "conservative" propaganda Martin Eden May 5 #21

And many who only have over the air (OTA) antennae get blue_jay May 5 #30

Amen means I agree, ... aggiesal May 5 #10

Amen! blue_jay May 5 #32

In hindsight, "Deplorables" sounds like such a charitable nickname. kentuck May 5 #11

Freedom and democracy or fascism and dictatorship. Hotler May 5 #12

i dont want to hear their whining when the cost of stuff goes up in 4 weeks time . u get what u pay 3. AllaN01Bear May 5 #13

MAGA voter opinion, egg prices are too high Johonny May 5 #14

Here, here Coolgoober May 5 #16

Abuse Cirsium May 5 #17

MAGA is nothing of substance. hadEnuf May 5 #18

Being tolerant of intolerance doesn't work. love_katz May 5 #19

Your last paragraph says it all, love_katz. calimary May 5 #28

Intolerance is a violation of the social contract misanthrope May 5 #62

Amen - could not agree more. waterwatcher123 May 5 #20

Amen. Joinfortmill May 5 #22

Great post! yonder May 5 #23

Im sure there's a secret formula for turning many. I havent found it yet but will report back if I do SSJVegeta May 5 #24

I remember how some folks try to tell me that I needed to "understand" the folks who voted "Uncommitted" as well as * Oopsie Daisy May 5 #25

I understand them just fine .. haele May 5 #40

Excellent post. Oopsie Daisy May 5 #41

Well said! c-rational May 5 #26

BINGO! ScoutHikerDad May 5 #27

Also because they have little to no principles or factual basis, they will say anything RockRaven May 5 #29

You can't talk cult members out of believing in their cult leader. No logic or persuasion will work. elocs May 5 #36

I seriously doubt that MAGA has ever been asked the same thing about us karynnj May 5 #31

I haven't listened to them since the first go-round. llmart May 5 #33

Excellent exprrsdion of how I feel. Thanks for thr words. KPN May 5 #34

I agree... IthinkThereforeIAM May 5 #35

Not completely pointless Nasruddin May 5 #37

It's understandable and it's often personal since they are the other major party nationally. TheProle May 5 #38

I appreciate the tone you're aiming for, AStern May 5 #39

And do you think what we're currently experiencing isn't a form of war? EdmondDantes_ May 5 #55

We're not ignoring people--we're refusing to center or legitimize views that attack basic rights. AStern May 5 #56

So you want us to sit down with Nazi fascists? Kingofalldems May 5 #42

I offered an alternative viewpoint to the OP TheProle May 5 #45

I hear this argument a lot--that there are "inroads" to be made with Republicans and Independents--but... AStern May 5 #52

If you can point to where I said to pander to anyone.... TheProle May 5 #53

You may not have explicitly said "pander," AStern May 5 #54

That's what Newsom wants to do if I'm reading it right. Especially about the Democratic Bengus81 May 6 #76

If that's the route Newsom wants to take, more power to him. AStern May 6 #77

Kick this for the MAGA trolls. Kingofalldems May 5 #43

heh Skittles May 5 #66

And clearly they aren't interested in listening to other opinions, or capable of empathy.... Blue Owl May 5 #44

What we should understand is how decades of right-wing propaganda created MAGAts... CaptainTruth May 5 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author AStern May 5 #51

I agree completely. We're being told how we need to listen to the poor MAGAs, but listen to what? Vinca May 5 #47

THANK YOU Skittles May 5 #48

100% TBF May 5 #49

AStern, You speak for me. Thank you! MuirHero May 5 #50

We know everything there is to know JustAnotherGen May 5 #57

My complaint - cab67 May 5 #59

This perspective of maga is essential, long read, well worth it Clouds Passing May 5 #61

Excellent article. Very scary read. love_katz May 6 #73

This cabal of spoiled rich kids have no sense of reality. They believe they can create a fake world Clouds Passing May 6 #75

I refuse to feed their delusions of normalcy mdbl May 5 #64

The only point to understanding someone who is demonstrably destructive soldierant May 5 #65

Amen. Reminds me of Facebook/reels. As I said in another post, people who are so far .. chouchou May 5 #67

Never in my life have I heard serious calls for the Right to listen to the Left Orrex May 5 #68

It's not just a difference in morality. It's a difference in reality. SunSeeker May 5 #69

We've had 10 years to listen to them and understand them Justice Brandeis May 6 #70

It's hate, pure & simple RainCaster May 6 #71

Listening to these idiots and allowing them to have their say all over the media is what got us here. mucholderthandirt May 7 #78